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golden wrote: View PostSolution is play JV with last year's Bench Mob. Net +/- is 9.1. Even better than with Jakob.
Hopefully we actually see JV get some real playing time under Nurse.
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golden wrote: View PostSolution is play JV with last year's Bench Mob. Net +/- is 9.1. Even better than with Jakob.
Similarly, we should probably not expect our starting unit to actually post near +20 ratings - something in the +15 range is more reasonable. But who knows?
In any case, point is that we shouldn't panic ahead of time and alter, for example, what looks like a very good starting/closing lineup to fix a bench lineup that probably doesn't need fixing.
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DanH wrote: View PostWell, we should also consider that this tool is punching out net ratings, but these are probably net ratings assuming average competition. Bench lineups see below average competition - which is probably a big part of why the bench mob posted a +17 net rating, and not the +7.4 the tool projects here. So the bench could still be extremely good even if they lose a few points or even half of that margin from last season.
Similarly, we should probably not expect our starting unit to actually post near +20 ratings - something in the +15 range is more reasonable. But who knows?
In any case, point is that we shouldn't panic ahead of time and alter, for example, what looks like a very good starting/closing lineup to fix a bench lineup that probably doesn't need fixing."We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard
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DanH wrote: View PostWell, we should also consider that this tool is punching out net ratings, but these are probably net ratings assuming average competition. Bench lineups see below average competition - which is probably a big part of why the bench mob posted a +17 net rating, and not the +7.4 the tool projects here. So the bench could still be extremely good even if they lose a few points or even half of that margin from last season.
Similarly, we should probably not expect our starting unit to actually post near +20 ratings - something in the +15 range is more reasonable. But who knows?
In any case, point is that we shouldn't panic ahead of time and alter, for example, what looks like a very good starting/closing lineup to fix a bench lineup that probably doesn't need fixing.
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S.R. wrote: View PostI'm expecting more hybird lineups and not such a clear starters/bench mob division as last year anyway
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golden wrote: View PostWho's panicking?
Still, I overstepped. Apologies. I don't think using JV with the bench is a good idea, is the point I was trying to make, ideally with less condescension than I probably used.
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Shaolin Fantastic wrote: View PostCould be a good move for 5-10 mins a game or so. Would give them somewhat of a go-to scorer for stretches in the game.
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DanH wrote: View PostStatistically speaking, roughly half the board at any given moment?
Still, I overstepped. Apologies. I don't think using JV with the bench is a good idea, is the point I was trying to make, ideally with less condescension than I probably used.
Specifically, I want to see him play with FVV and Wright more. Jakob is a good player and good till man, but no one on our team sets screens like JV. The brief glimpses I saw last year were fun to watch. You could tell that those guys weren't used to coming around a screen with so much space.
I suppose this doesn't have to mean JV playing with the bench as much as just seeing more mixed units. Monroe or Serge can't provide quite the same options as screen/roll guys.
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white men can't jump wrote: View PostI would really like to see JV get some minutes with the bench group.
Specifically, I want to see him play with FVV and Wright more. Jakob is a good player and good till man, but no one on our team sets screens like JV. The brief glimpses I saw last year were fun to watch. You could tell that those guys weren't used to coming around a screen with so much space.
I suppose this doesn't have to mean JV playing with the bench as much as just seeing more mixed units. Monroe or Serge can't provide quite the same options as screen/roll guys.
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DanH wrote: View PostYeah it would help Wright and FVV. But I think the team is best served having as much of JV's time as possible spent making life easy for Lowry and Kawhi on the offensive end.
I mean, we rarely saw him play with the bench guys. The odd time Casey might let him play like 10+ minutes straight. Or sometimes if one or two bench guys got extended minutes in the 4th (and you know, of JV got any minutes in the 4th).
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Barolt wrote: View PostInterestingly, if you slot in Kyle, Kawhi, OG, and Jonas, and then play around with the 5th slot, inserting Danny Green, Delon Wright, Fred VanVleet, or DeMar DeRozan, the worst of those four lineups is the one with DeMar.I relish negativity and disappointment. It is not healthy. Somebody buy me a pony.
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