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Hotshot wrote: View PostDrummond shooting 3 in Detroit should be fun too.9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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KeonClark wrote: View Post...I'll let you guys judge for yourself on how much is "too much" for the aesthetic of the game, but I think we're nearing that point soon.
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KeonClark wrote: View PostHoward wants to stretch his range too...just don't see it happening...but a sign that the 3 point "trend" is going nowhere anytime soon, and is in fact still trending up up and up. I suspect more league records for long range shooting will fall this year. I'll let you guys judge for yourself on how much is "too much" for the aesthetic of the game, but I think we're nearing that point soon.
When your big guys are all starting to shoot 3's, that's just stupid.
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Puffer wrote: View PostMeh, they move the line back another three feet and suddenly, big plodding centers are in vogue again. And the guys guarding perimeter players are spread so far apart that they can't help and slashing to the basket and open mid-range shots become the strategy.
golden wrote: View PostYeah, the NBA should also start awarding 3 points for a dunk to balance things out. Most of the time, a dunk is an exciting, crowd-pleasing play that shows off the unique athleticism & physical stature of NBA players. Giving 3-pts for a dunk would also create some incredible blocking contests at the rim (also a crowd pleasing play) and expand the dynamics on end-of-game strategy.
When your big guys are all starting to shoot 3's, that's just stupid.9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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KeonClark wrote: View PostInteresting idea, the problem then is you have to widen the courts as the 22 foot corner 3 would remain otherwise. Those seats are like $2000 each in many markets. But I think it's time to look at it.
Another interesting idea and I dont think I've seen this one. Is it too gimmicky?
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DanH wrote: View PostTwo things.
First: Monroe went on TSN radio for a short interview. Nothing major, but does say he is stretching out his range as per Nurse's request, trying to improve his mobility, and talks about his various clashes with JV on the court and looking forward to being on the same team.
https://www.tsn.ca/radio/toronto-105...-run-1.1158736
Second, following on his point that he intends to take some threes. Monroe has always been a good shooter, just like JV was, and perhaps his shooting suggests he can have a similar "out of nowhere" explosion of high efficiency three point shooting (when wide open, on fairly low volume) like JV did. Here are the two players' numbers over the past 4 seasons (for JV, the 4 years prior to last season when he started taking threes).
Valanciunas: 78% FT%, 42% 10-16 feet, 38% 16+ feet, with 18% (~460 FGAs) of his shots coming from midrange.
Monroe: 74% FT%, 42% 10-16 feet, 41% 16+ feet, with 11% (~320 FGAs) of his shots coming from midrange.
Pretty similar results. Perhaps a sign that Monroe can indeed extend his range and potentially give us three stretch 5's on the roster.
What is Serge now? Interested to see if he can improve his value this year under Nurse. Also to see the effect another year has on his knees.
My feeling would be it'd be valuable, as Nurse said, to explore many lineups, including w/ Serge at the 5 so if you end up needing him against smaller 5's in the playoffs, as inevitably happens, we'll be ready. Seemed like Casey barely tried that last year unless I'm mistaken.
(Others, please weigh in as well, but was curious about the apparent adjustment with you, DanH)
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GOLDBLUM wrote: View PostI'm just curious Dan. Last year you were super anti-Ibaka-at-center and asserted Serge is clearly meant for the 4. Now you've talked a lot about how on top of playing some 4, he should be our primary option as backup C. (granted that was mostly before signing Monroe.) What caused the shift in thinking? His plodding, bumbling postseason play? Or having lost Poeltl? And now that we've got Monroe.. who can offer JV like minutes, at least in the style of play, do you see a scenario where GMon becomes the de facto back up 5 and Serge still plays predominantly PF?
What is Serge now? Interested to see if he can improve his value this year under Nurse. Also to see the effect another year has on his knees.
My feeling would be it'd be valuable, as Nurse said, to explore many lineups, including w/ Serge at the 5 so if you end up needing him against smaller 5's in the playoffs, as inevitably happens, we'll be ready. Seemed like Casey barely tried that last year unless I'm mistaken.
(Others, please weigh in as well, but was curious about the apparent adjustment with you, DanH)"My biggest concern as a coach is to not confuse winning with progress." - Steve Kerr
"If it's unacceptable in defeat, it's unacceptable in victory." - Jeff Van Gundy
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GOLDBLUM wrote: View PostI'm just curious Dan. Last year you were super anti-Ibaka-at-center and asserted Serge is clearly meant for the 4. Now you've talked a lot about how on top of playing some 4, he should be our primary option as backup C. (granted that was mostly before signing Monroe.) What caused the shift in thinking? His plodding, bumbling postseason play? Or having lost Poeltl? And now that we've got Monroe.. who can offer JV like minutes, at least in the style of play, do you see a scenario where GMon becomes the de facto back up 5 and Serge still plays predominantly PF?
What is Serge now? Interested to see if he can improve his value this year under Nurse. Also to see the effect another year has on his knees.
My feeling would be it'd be valuable, as Nurse said, to explore many lineups, including w/ Serge at the 5 so if you end up needing him against smaller 5's in the playoffs, as inevitably happens, we'll be ready. Seemed like Casey barely tried that last year unless I'm mistaken.
(Others, please weigh in as well, but was curious about the apparent adjustment with you, DanH)
This can indirectly lead to more time for Wright, Green and CJ Miles on the 2-3 spot. I'm curious to see what CJ's output will be when he has more breathing room and is not the only guy being hunted down in the perimeter.
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Just Is wrote: View PostI think the key difference is now Ibaka would be dealing with almost primarily back up calibre Centres so the mileage/quality of opponents wouldn't be too out of reach for Ibaka. Additionally; it would open up more time for wing players that are, honestly, better than Ibaka.
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I think Serge is still our starting PF. But I think more of his shots get distributed among the other starters than last season where he seemed like the clear 3rd option on offence after DeMar/Lowry...at least it seemed that way to start the season and ended up less so.
Only one fit to take his spot is Pascal, but I don't know if he's ready yet.
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GOLDBLUM wrote: View PostI'm just curious Dan. Last year you were super anti-Ibaka-at-center and asserted Serge is clearly meant for the 4. Now you've talked a lot about how on top of playing some 4, he should be our primary option as backup C. (granted that was mostly before signing Monroe.) What caused the shift in thinking? His plodding, bumbling postseason play? Or having lost Poeltl? And now that we've got Monroe.. who can offer JV like minutes, at least in the style of play, do you see a scenario where GMon becomes the de facto back up 5 and Serge still plays predominantly PF?
What is Serge now? Interested to see if he can improve his value this year under Nurse. Also to see the effect another year has on his knees.
My feeling would be it'd be valuable, as Nurse said, to explore many lineups, including w/ Serge at the 5 so if you end up needing him against smaller 5's in the playoffs, as inevitably happens, we'll be ready. Seemed like Casey barely tried that last year unless I'm mistaken.
(Others, please weigh in as well, but was curious about the apparent adjustment with you, DanH)
So I guess what changed is there is now a reason to play him at C (getting more minutes at PF for OV and Siakam, and freeing up wing minutes for Green and Wright). And I remain staunchly opposed to him getting starting C minutes or heavy minutes at C against non-small-ball lineups.
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LJ2 wrote: View PostI think Serge is still our starting PF. But I think more of his shots get distributed among the other starters than last season where he seemed like the clear 3rd option on offence after DeMar/Lowry...at least it seemed that way to start the season and ended up less so.
Only one fit to take his spot is Pascal, but I don't know if he's ready yet.
One of the things that pissed me off last season was the way Serge was used which was alot like Bargnani. Yes hang around the perimeter while your 6ft10 frame is now completely useless because you don't rebound the ball no more. If you cannot do both than stick to specific assignments (today I need you to just rebound the ball & block shots, limit your offensive opportunities where you are not guarded) otherwise when your 3 point shot doesn't go in you become useless. You don't compromise your defense for offense. Maybe the move of Serge as a bench centre will bring him back to what he was. I hope Nurse sticks to his guns on this and I fully expect Serge to not liking it & will clash at times with staff. Tough cookies.
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DanH wrote: View Post(getting more minutes at PF for OV and Siakam).
Will that translate to effective PF minutes in the NBA though? And what about scheduling?
Perhaps now that he's won a cup his veteran leadership alone will make his presence valuable enough.
Good call Dan, as always
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