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MixxAOR wrote: View PostIt's early but our prospects are not untouchable. If there's a trade for Butler man I hope Masai doesn't hesitate.
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Nilanka wrote: View PostProblem is Butler has very little reason to commit long term before the summer of 2019.
If Jimmy enters free agency and goes to a new team the most a team can give him is that 4 year/$100M max. So I suspect if Masai told Jimmy's agent that he'd give him that 5 year, $190M deal he would stick around.
But who knows if Masai would even want that contract on his books. He's got a potential Kawhi max contract to deal with as well.
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planetmars wrote: View PostThe team that trades for Jimmy can offer him a 5 year, $190M max extension (and I suspect money is a driving force based on why he wants out of Minny). Minny offered him a 4 year, $100M deal to stick around after this year and he said no.
If Jimmy enters free agency and goes to a new team the most a team can give him is that 4 year/$100M max. So I suspect if Masai told Jimmy's agent that he'd give him that 5 year, $190M deal he would stick around.
But who knows if Masai would even want that contract on his books. He's got a potential Kawhi max contract to deal with as well.
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DanH wrote: View PostThe most a team can offer him in free agency is 4/140M or so, not 4/100M. The annual amount is only a little higher re-signing with Bird Rights, it's the 5th year that's the real difference. I suspect it would very much help with re-signing him, but it's far from a sure thing.
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planetmars wrote: View PostYeah.. we need to stop overrating some of our prospects. If we can get Jimmy for 5 years (and not as a rental) I'm willing to give up an OG or Pascal for him.
*Frankly would still not really want to give up anything good given Butler's age, possible fit and possibility he could bolt, while also taking Kawhi with him.
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planetmars wrote: View PostPoeltl was a mess in the playoffs last year. The guy needs at least 1 or 2 more years of development. Love Poeltl but Siakam is a better player.
Siakam has been a little erratic but he still finished with 9 boards (and with 13 in game 1, we can see that he's been tasked to grab as many boards as he can get his hands on). He finished with a respectable 4/8. Still can't shoot (although did get one 3 in), and his 4 turnovers were bad. But he's still learning how to initiate an offense. If he can develop that skill (and that's a tough one to learn) he'll be really good in this league.
If it takes all of preseason to help him with that development I don't see why it's a problem. Going into the season though I would like Fred or Delon to control the pace, and have Siakam initiate less and have him maybe only initiate a play one or twice a game at the max.
I think perhaps the expectations might have been too high coming into preseason for him. He's not going to be some MIP candidate or anything. He's no where near to being an all-star type player. But maybe one day he can become one. That ceiling is still there for the taking for him.
Norm on the other hand.. ugh. 4 more years right?white men can't jump wrote: View PostSiakam needs to learn to shoot at least somewhat respectably before he can make a big leap.
Not sure better playmaking will matter enough without that. It will help in transition, but won't matter as much in the halfcourt where without a shot guys will sag off him a lot.
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white men can't jump wrote: View PostWilling to maybe give up Pascal depending on the configuration of the deal. Not willing to give up OG at all. OG may never be more than a 4th/5th option, but he's so good defensively and has the physical tools to play all 5 positions on that end. I can't give that up for a guy who requests a trade every year.
*Frankly would still not really want to give up anything good given Butler's age, possible fit and possibility he could bolt, while also taking Kawhi's with him.
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If the deal on the table for Butler and they insist on Pascal than you do it but not OG.
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Hotshot wrote: View PostIn other news: Bruno debuted today for the Rockets playing 9 mins, going 2 for 3 with 6 pts, 3 rbs, 2 assists, 1 steal and 2 blocks.
If Bruno become's a rotation player...we blew it!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BoUPoMCh...-by=darylmorey
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S.R. wrote: View PostShooting and/or defensive awareness are needed for him to crack the starting lineup. With a shot he could be the starting 4, with improved defensive awareness he could be the lone big in small ball lineups.
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white men can't jump wrote: View PostHis awareness on both ends need to improve. He is still generally erratic. He plays with incredible energy, but can be all over the place. It's tough to project because he basically didn't play much quality organized ball until he got to the NBA. He may never be able to put everything together.
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KeonClark wrote: View PostIf Pascal reached his ceiling today hes already a very good 26th overall pick. I hope people dont turn on his before Christmas because everybody has been whispering "Draymond green" all summer
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