Game 18: Toronto Raptors @ Orlando Magic - Tuesday, November 20th 7pm ET, SN1

[Scraptor]

Drummond is averaging 33 minutes under Casey. Unbelievable

He's a weakling, who gives up to the pressure from players and management to satisfy them (IMO, one of the reasons he's so liked), he doesn't really have a strong spine, when it comes minutes and stuff, rewarding the rights players with minutes after being good or vice versa. When he joined the team he rode with the players, who had star or veteran status, he's doing the same thing in Detroit. If you don't have a big ego or fat contract, then only then Casey will use you how he wishes.

Uh who else is he going to play there? Zaza is far worse than Drummond. Blake at center would basically disintegrate. Ellenson and Leuer are even softer.

Masai gave Casey the luxury of going small with Ibaka, but even the year before he gave plenty of run to a traditoonal athletic center in Bismack.

[Scraptor]

As for Kemba over Kyle, please gtfo.

Defensive RPM for point guards this year:
Kyle 10th of 90
Kemba 77th of 90

[S.R.]

Kemba is a poor man's Damian Lillard. He's also a career 19 ppg guy having a hot start to the season. Fun to watch but let's not get carried away.

[Abbas]

As for Kemba over Kyle, please gtfo.

Defensive RPM for point guards this year:
Kyle 10th of 90
Kemba 77th of 90

If Jordan calls and offers us kemba for Lowry (straight up)...

I would take that deal 10/10 times

[Scraptor]

If Jordan calls and offers us kemba for Lowry (straight up)...

I would take that deal 10/10 times

He's four years younger than Kyle, so two years from now it might work out. But I'd take Kyle in the playoffs this year 10/10 times.

There's a reason Kyle is always so high up on impact stats. He does the little things to help you win.

[G__Deane]

Kyle's reading this board and gonna go off tonight

[G__Deane]

Giannis 29 and 12 in a Bucks win over Denver last night and Embiid goes off for 33 and 17 as the 76ers beat the Suns.

Philly is now 9-0 at home, the only team in the league unbeaten there where they play 5 of their next 6 games. Maintaining home court for the post season remains a big deal ....

Time to answer with a big game from one of our own. Kawhi? Lowry? Ibaka? Or Green, FVV, JV?

Go Raps! Game Day!

[Demographic Shift]

Giannis 29 and 12 in a Bucks win over Denver last night and Embiid goes off for 33 and 17 as the 76ers beat the Suns.

Philly is now 9-0 at home, the only team in the league unbeaten there where they play 5 of their next 6 games. Maintaining home court for the post season remains a big deal ....

Time to answer with a big game from one of our own. Kawhi? Lowry? Ibaka? Or Green, FVV, JV?

Go Raps! Game Day!

Best thing about this is the silence from the Boston trolls at ESPN and the other NBA MSM.

[rocwell]

[DanH]

Kawhi playing tonight. OG and Miles still out. Per various beat guys.

[The Great One]

We already are the favorites. And that's just not patently true. Every advanced metric shows Lowry as an elite driver of wins every year. Hes the one constant on team that wins at least 48 every year. But now it all because of Kawhi? Were 9-3 with Kawhi and 4-1 without. But dont let facts get in the way of your skip Bayless style.

LMAO. You talk like Lowry is the only player on this team. Newsflash - basketball is a team game. Lowry had DeRozan on his side the past 5 years, you know.... a perennial all star? and Masai has surrounded them both with really good role players. That's why they're a perennial 48+ win team. Replace Kemba with Lowry, could Lowry make the Hornets a perennial 48+ win team? the answer is NO.

One of the main reason why no one respects the Raptors in the playoffs the past few years was bec of Kyle Lowry, who's widely known as a perennial playoff choker.

This year is different, people are actually talkin about the Raptors as a true contender, why? because they have Kawhi Leonard, a top 3 player in basketball.

But yeah, keep undermining Kawhi and keep overrating Lowry. Everyone knows who drives this bus: it's KAWHI LEONARD. I know.... it's hard to believe right?

[Maury]

LMAO. You talk like Lowry is the only player on this team. Newsflash - basketball is a team game. Lowry had DeRozan on his side the past 5 years, you know.... a perennial all star? and Masai has surrounded them both with really good role players. That's why they're a perennial 48+ win team. Replace Kemba with Lowry, could Lowry make the Hornets a perennial 48+ win team? the answer is NO.

One of the main reason why no one respects the Raptors in the playoffs the past few years was bec of Kyle Lowry, who's widely known as a perennial playoff choker.

This year is different, people are actually talkin about the Raptors as a true contender, why? because they have Kawhi Leonard, a top 3 player in basketball.

But yeah, keep undermining Kawhi and keep overrating Lowry. Everyone knows who drives this bus: it's KAWHI LEONARD. I know.... it's hard to believe right?

We were almost always better when Demar wasn’t on the floor.

[DanH]

LMAO. You talk like Lowry is the only player on this team. Newsflash - basketball is a team game. Lowry had DeRozan on his side the past 5 years, you know.... a perennial all star? and Masai has surrounded them both with really good role players. That's why they're a perennial 48+ win team. Replace Kemba with Lowry, could Lowry make the Hornets a perennial 48+ win team? the answer is NO.

One of the main reason why no one respects the Raptors in the playoffs the past few years was bec of Kyle Lowry, who's widely known as a perennial playoff choker.

This year is different, people are actually talkin about the Raptors as a true contender, why? because they have Kawhi Leonard, a top 3 player in basketball.

But yeah, keep undermining Kawhi and keep overrating Lowry. Everyone knows who drives this bus: it's KAWHI LEONARD. I know.... it's hard to believe right?

Yes, Kawhi is the difference between last year's Raptors and this year's. Previous versions were limited because they had only one borderline superstar, with a flawed all-star as his running mate. This year we have a true blue superstar, with a borderline superstar as his running mate. That's a massive upgrade.

But that's big picture stuff, and assumes Kawhi will eventually be back to his former self and that will become significantly more valuable in the playoffs. Thus far, Kawhi is not quite back to his former self (though lots of great positive signs that he's on his way) and he's not really driving our success thus far. Lowry and our very good role players are really driving the success (Lowry far and away the most, then Kawhi is lumped in with players like Green and Siakam and Ibaka and JV as solid contributors). Kawhi has another gear, which is incredibly promising because they have a great record and are playing like a ~60 win team already while he shakes off the rust and rests a decent number of games.

[Maury]

LMAO. You talk like Lowry is the only player on this team. Newsflash - basketball is a team game. Lowry had DeRozan on his side the past 5 years, you know.... a perennial all star? and Masai has surrounded them both with really good role players. That's why they're a perennial 48+ win team. Replace Kemba with Lowry, could Lowry make the Hornets a perennial 48+ win team? the answer is NO.

One of the main reason why no one respects the Raptors in the playoffs the past few years was bec of Kyle Lowry, who's widely known as a perennial playoff choker.

This year is different, people are actually talkin about the Raptors as a true contender, why? because they have Kawhi Leonard, a top 3 player in basketball.

But yeah, keep undermining Kawhi and keep overrating Lowry. Everyone knows who drives this bus: it's KAWHI LEONARD. I know.... it's hard to believe right?

This is from maybe two weeks back

[Maury]

You can’t love Danny Green and not love Kyle Lowry way more.