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Thread: GAME #33 Indiana Pacers @ Toronto Raptors - Wednesday, December 19, 2018 7:30 PM ET on TSN

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    Bill Simmons did his annual trade value rankings
    #1 is some name I cant pronounce that plays for our pals in milwaukee
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    12. Kawhi
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    Quote KeonClark wrote: View Post
    It is a fair game. Refs make mistakes all throughout the game. Unless we're now thinking the fix was in. A missed call at the 48 minute mark is the same as a missed call in the 1st quarter if were interested in the poor calls against us I remember early on.

    Pacers had plenty other opportunities other than that to score more than the 11 pts we held them to in the 4th. Our guys were clutch, OG got some hand on the ball, bogdon flopped like a fish, refs didnt like it enough to stop the celebration and bring it back, ball game, on to the next
    I don't know man, it looks to me that OG knew he effed up after the play, probably was surprised himself that there was no call.

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    I don't know man, it looks to me that OG knew he effed up after the play, probably was surprised himself that there was no call.

    I'm not saying it wasnt a missed call. I'm saying theres missed calls all over the game. Calls were missed against the Raptors in the 1st quarter that could have made the final play irrelevant.

    #AllMissedCallsMatter
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    Quote KeonClark wrote: View Post
    I'm not saying it wasnt a missed call. I'm saying theres missed calls all over the game. Calls were missed against the Raptors in the 1st quarter that could have made the final play irrelevant.

    #AllMissedCallsMatter
    The Sacramento Screw Job Part 1... The offensive foul called on Kyle Lowry as he drained a three to tie the score. Not sure who was more surprised. Ben MacLemore, Kyle or the other two zebras who watched the call in stunned silence.
    The Sacramento Screw Job Part 2.... The imaginary clock start that cost T Ross a buzzer beater
    Violet Palmer watching and ignoring a hack worse than OG's last night on the late great Primo Pasta in Charlotte

    and these are just off the top of my head.. I am sure there are more.

    Did Ed Malloy miss that call.. he sure did.... but so what.
    After getting hosed for the better part of 23 years Les Raptors fans should give a fat rats pitoot about poor Indiana

    Next up... a battering of the Cavs.

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    Quote Demographic Shift wrote: View Post
    The Sacramento Screw Job Part 1... The offensive foul called on Kyle Lowry as he drained a three to tie the score. Not sure who was more surprised. Ben MacLemore, Kyle or the other two zebras who watched the call in stunned silence.
    The Sacramento Screw Job Part 2.... The imaginary clock start that cost T Ross a buzzer beater
    Violet Palmer watching and ignoring a hack worse than OG's last night on the late great Primo Pasta in Charlotte

    and these are just off the top of my head.. I am sure there are more.

    Did Ed Malloy miss that call.. he sure did.... but so what.
    After getting hosed for the better part of 23 years Les Raptors fans should give a fat rats pitoot about poor Indiana

    Next up... a battering of the Cavs.
    It was Ed Malloy last night?

    Hey! How bout this one?

    The NBA said Thursday that officials Ed Malloy, John Goble and Violet Palmer missed a foul by Charlotte’s Michael Kidd-Gilchrist against Toronto’s Andrea Bargnani on a jump shot in the final seconds of the Bobcats’ 98-97 victory Wednesday night.

    The NBA said Bargnani should have been given two free throws and the clock stopped with approximately 2.4 seconds remaining. Replays showed Kidd-Gilchrist’s right hand made contact with Bargnani’s left wrist as the Toronto player shot, with the ball coming up well short
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    I don't know man, it looks to me that OG knew he effed up after the play, probably was surprised himself that there was no call.

    All I could look at was OG's reaction after the foul ... priceless. He definitely fouled him. But whatevs.

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    Quote Joey wrote: View Post
    All I could look at was OG's reaction after the foul ... priceless. He definitely fouled him. But whatevs.
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    Even if he gets the foul hes gotta go 3 for 3 just to take it it overtime. Hes a career 85% ft shooter so math tells me he makes all 3 60% of the time..and thats to get to overtime on the road so cut that number in more than half..

    They got screwed out of a 25% shot at winning
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    Quote RandomGuy wrote: View Post
    I don't know man, it looks to me that OG knew he effed up after the play, probably was surprised himself that there was no call.

    Just as plausible he was simply reacting to the flailing and likelihood that the refs would late-call react to it .... but he did foul him, just not an automatic call imo

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    Quote Rudy Bargnani wrote: View Post
    Is there a boxscore where it shows the pace by quarter?

    Seems like as soon as the pace picked up and raps went small things improved.

    Ironically Greg Monroe’s net rating was great.
    Monroe's net rating was -20, second worst on the team.

    Pace:
    98.5 overall
    106 Q1
    101.5 Q2
    99.2 Q3
    97.9 Q4

    Pace was at its slowest in the final Q when the Raps came back, at its highest in Q1 when the Pacers were crushing us.

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    Quote DanH wrote: View Post
    Monroe's net rating was -20, second worst on the team.

    Pace:
    98.5 overall
    106 Q1
    101.5 Q2
    99.2 Q3
    97.9 Q4

    Pace was at its slowest in the final Q when the Raps came back, at its highest in Q1 when the Pacers were crushing us.
    Where did you get the data?

    Basketball reference boxscore has Monroe as +41....144 ORtg and 103 DRtg.

    EditóIím seeing your data on NBA.com

    https://www.basketball-reference.com...812190TOR.html
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    Quote Rudy Bargnani wrote: View Post
    Where did you get the data?

    Basketball reference boxscore has Monroe as +41....144 ORtg and 103 DRtg.

    Edit—I’m seeing your data on NBA.com

    https://www.basketball-reference.com...812190TOR.html
    Those BBall reference numbers are individual efficiency ratings. The iDRTG in particular is especially meaningless.

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    https://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-con...12-19-2018.pdf

    Looks like we got away with one (for a change). L2MR says "incorrect non call" when OG hit Bog's arm

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    Quote DanH wrote: View Post
    Monroe's net rating was -20, second worst on the team.

    Pace:
    98.5 overall
    106 Q1
    101.5 Q2
    99.2 Q3
    97.9 Q4

    Pace was at its slowest in the final Q when the Raps came back, at its highest in Q1 when the Pacers were crushing us.
    The pace probably looked and felt quicker because the defensive intensity increased noticeably
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    Quote DanH wrote: View Post
    Those BBall reference numbers are individual efficiency ratings. The iDRTG in particular is especially meaningless.
    Thank you.

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    Quote KeonClark wrote: View Post
    Even if he gets the foul hes gotta go 3 for 3 just to take it it overtime. Hes a career 85% ft shooter so math tells me he makes all 3 60% of the time..and thats to get to overtime on the road so cut that number in more than half..

    They got screwed out of a 25% shot at winning
    And they would've had zero momentum going into OT.

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    Quote Joey wrote: View Post
    All I could look at was OG's reaction after the foul ... priceless. He definitely fouled him. But whatevs.
    One of the best comments I heard regarding the non foul call was on a radio station on the drive home yesterday that said to the effect that it only cost us a 15K fine and numerous years of suffering to finally get a call to go our way LOL.

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    Quote LJ2 wrote: View Post
    One of the best comments I heard regarding the non foul call was on a radio station on the drive home yesterday that said to the effect that it only cost us a 15K fine and numerous years of suffering to finally get a call to go our way LOL.
    Sounds like my post-game hot takes. lol.

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    Great. Thatís the respek we deserve. NBA still owes us a few thousand calls to even things up.

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    Quote golden wrote: View Post
    Sounds like my post-game hot takes. lol.
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    Quote KeonClark wrote: View Post
    It was Ed Malloy last night?

    Hey! How bout this one?

    The NBA said Thursday that officials Ed Malloy, John Goble and Violet Palmer missed a foul by Charlotte’s Michael Kidd-Gilchrist against Toronto’s Andrea Bargnani on a jump shot in the final seconds of the Bobcats’ 98-97 victory Wednesday night.

    The NBA said Bargnani should have been given two free throws and the clock stopped with approximately 2.4 seconds remaining. Replays showed Kidd-Gilchrist’s right hand made contact with Bargnani’s left wrist as the Toronto player shot, with the ball coming up well short
    It was the best that it was Malloy... it could have only been better if it was Marc Davis...

    And yeah.. thats the Violet Palmer episode you found... we stunk.. they stunk.. but we were still robbed blind.

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