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Thread: 2018-19 Trade Rumours and Discussion - Deadline February 7th 2019

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    Haven't really had a chance to post my thoughts on the deal.

    I think it's a good move just because of how low risk it is. The biggest risk is that you don't get as much out of Gasol as you got with Jonas, which is possible on the offensive end, but I think the defense and the passing in particular is a huge upgrade. The one thing the Raptors didn't have on their roster until this point is a playmaking big man, Ibaka and Val are both below average passers even for their positions. This could smooth out Toronto's offense quite a bit, especially when Lowry sits.

    Really they didn't give up a single great asset. Valanciunas is a good player with terrific pick and roll skills, but he's on a slight overpay contract and there's just matchups he can't really play in, and they're getting more and more common in today's NBA. There's a reason when he was healthy, Ibaka was finishing 75% of games despite arguably not being purely as good a player. Wright really wasn't going anywhere as a Raptor, it's hard to see them committing to him past the 2020 threshold of when the team's contracts all run out as a third string point guard who should earn more money than that typically calls for. Miles has sadly become a zero on both ends so trading him is just losing an expiring for (probably) committed 2019-20 money in Gasol, which is fine. That second round pick in 2024 could be pick 33 for all we know, but you throw it in if you need to get the deal done.

    I think this will work well for team chemistry rather than negatively, and Gasol when he is on (like at the start of this season) is an All Star level beast. I don't think this is the massive upgrade that some outsiders will probably see it as, but I think it's a low cost slight upgrade, which you have to take at this stage.
    That is a normal collar. Move on, find a new slant.

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    Or let Norm be more of the facilitator (his IQ still needs a lot of work though).
    What IQ?

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    Quote rocwell wrote: View Post

    wonder what the deal was

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    Quote rocwell wrote: View Post

    Other than him not going to Bucks, the deal we did was better imo.

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    I bet it was Delon to Orlando. When it fell apart they went with fultz

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    Kellerman saying we get Davis via trade this summer? I like Max Kellerman sometimes.

    http://www.espn.com/videohub/video/c...goryid=2378529

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    Quote Joey wrote: View Post
    Kellerman saying we get Davis via trade this summer? I like Max Kellerman sometimes.

    http://www.espn.com/videohub/video/c...goryid=2378529


    he's a cool guy
    GASOLINE!!!

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    Kellerman saying we get Davis via trade this summer? I like Max Kellerman sometimes.

    http://www.espn.com/videohub/video/c...goryid=2378529
    I don't see this unless Kawhi does a 1+1 to stay another year. Otherwise, what's the point?

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    Quote Mitchell Duong wrote: View Post
    I don't see this unless Kawhi does a 1+1 to stay another year. Otherwise, what's the point?
    I mean if kawhi commits for longer term ... like a 2+1 You don't think Davis stays?

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    Quote TrueTorontoFan wrote: View Post
    I mean if kawhi commits for longer term ... like a 2+1 You don't think Davis stays?
    No, I'm saying that Max thinks Kawhi is leaving, but the Raptors still go for AD. I don't see them going for AD unless Kawhi is staying for another season at minimum.

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    Bucks are steamrolling everybody. They build up big early leads and do not give teams any whiff of a comeback. Can they finish 24-6 for a 65 win season? I dare say no Load Management Overload so far for Giannis or Middleton. who have sat for only 3 games each (out of 54). The addition of Mirotic gives Giannis another proven 3pt option on the wing. Very Scary...

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    Quote Zak24gege wrote: View Post
    Bucks are steamrolling everybody. They build up big early leads and do not give teams any whiff of a comeback. Can they finish 24-6 for a 65 win season? I dare say no Load Management Overload so far for Giannis or Middleton. who have sat for only 3 games each (out of 54). The addition of Mirotic gives Giannis another proven 3pt option on the wing. Very Scary...
    There's just such an obvious playoff game plan vs the Bucks - sag off Giannis and stay home on the shooters. Let Giannis drive one-on-one all night vs Kawhi, Siakam, and OG.

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    Quote S.R. wrote: View Post
    There's just such an obvious playoff game plan vs the Bucks - sag off Giannis and stay home on the shooters. Let Giannis drive one-on-one all night vs Kawhi, Siakam, and OG.
    Can anybody stop Giannis 1-on-1 off the dribble anymore? He's more athletic than prime Lebron with the height/length of Durant.

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    Can anybody stop Giannis 1-on-1 off the dribble anymore? He's more athletic than prime Lebron with the height/length of Durant.
    Probably not, but I like the Raptors being able to assign one of Kawhi, Siakim, Gasol or Serge with the others as potential help defenders.

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    Quote Zak24gege wrote: View Post
    Bucks are steamrolling everybody. They build up big early leads and do not give teams any whiff of a comeback. Can they finish 24-6 for a 65 win season? I dare say no Load Management Overload so far for Giannis or Middleton. who have sat for only 3 games each (out of 54). The addition of Mirotic gives Giannis another proven 3pt option on the wing. Very Scary...
    Tbh I'm not scared of the Bucks at all. It's like no one's learned that in the playoffs, when the sphincters tighten up like boa constrictors, the three point shooting of role players reliably fails. Houston going 0-for-50 from 3 in that close out game against GSW last year was a feature, not a bug.
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    Quote Other Scott wrote: View Post
    Haven't really had a chance to post my thoughts on the deal.

    I think it's a good move just because of how low risk it is. The biggest risk is that you don't get as much out of Gasol as you got with Jonas, which is possible on the offensive end, but I think the defense and the passing in particular is a huge upgrade. The one thing the Raptors didn't have on their roster until this point is a playmaking big man, Ibaka and Val are both below average passers even for their positions. This could smooth out Toronto's offense quite a bit, especially when Lowry sits.

    Really they didn't give up a single great asset. Valanciunas is a good player with terrific pick and roll skills, but he's on a slight overpay contract and there's just matchups he can't really play in, and they're getting more and more common in today's NBA. There's a reason when he was healthy, Ibaka was finishing 75% of games despite arguably not being purely as good a player. Wright really wasn't going anywhere as a Raptor, it's hard to see them committing to him past the 2020 threshold of when the team's contracts all run out as a third string point guard who should earn more money than that typically calls for. Miles has sadly become a zero on both ends so trading him is just losing an expiring for (probably) committed 2019-20 money in Gasol, which is fine. That second round pick in 2024 could be pick 33 for all we know, but you throw it in if you need to get the deal done.

    I think this will work well for team chemistry rather than negatively, and Gasol when he is on (like at the start of this season) is an All Star level beast. I don't think this is the massive upgrade that some outsiders will probably see it as, but I think it's a low cost slight upgrade, which you have to take at this stage.
    after all this...... nobody cares. your 2 cents....worthless and boring.

    you suck.
    loser.






    just kidding.

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    Quote Zak24gege wrote: View Post
    Bucks are steamrolling everybody. They build up big early leads and do not give teams any whiff of a comeback. Can they finish 24-6 for a 65 win season? I dare say no Load Management Overload so far for Giannis or Middleton. who have sat for only 3 games each (out of 54). The addition of Mirotic gives Giannis another proven 3pt option on the wing. Very Scary...
    Yeah they're pedal to the metal every game. No injuries, no resting, stick to the gameplan. It reminds me of Toronto last year. Much like the Raptors last season. I just don't see another gear here. When the games get tighter the Brogdon's and Lopez's are going to fade. I'll believe that until I see otherwise.

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    Quote Zak24gege wrote: View Post
    What IQ?
    its funny when losers on a mssage board get smug and call out an actual NBA basketball players IQ, as if you have all this information and if only everyone could see it....but that NBA guy, he's got low IQ, and we all need to understand that you clearly know more than he does.


    Yeah, it alll adds up.
    We"re cool, you're clarly in a position to call out guys that have lived their role foe years...cuz hey, you used to fantasize about being in the NBA while you sat in your HIGH SCHOOL gymnasium watching the actual playeds on the team throw down lame dunks in wram ups......ooooohhhhh you were good.

    But.


    You arent.

    And you're dumb, and have no fucking idea because you never even played the game. Because you suck. Always have, and clearly, always will.

    ew.

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    Its the only team Ive worried about since our first game against them but I think we can take them in a seven game series but Ill bet it will be seven probably down to the final possession. I love this game

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