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Thread: Game #44 Nets (20-22) @ Raptors (31-12) Friday January 11th, 2019. SN1 130am(Brazzaville, Republic of the Congo) 230am(Vilnius, Lithuania) 900pm(St Johns) 830pm(Halifax) 730pm(Toronto) 630pm(Winnipeg) 530pm(Calgary) 430pm(Vancouver)

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    Quote Fury wrote: View Post
    Deal


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    I feel like pretty much any scenario we get Beal, doesn't actually make us better. He is awesome, and in a vacuum he does. BUT, having to give up JV, Norm AND Pascal is crazy. Our two headed monster of JV, and Serge goes away. That was a big part of our early success.

    Norm is just starting to pick it up, and I'm down for selling high on him, but he alone is not getting you Beal.

    Finally, Pascal is just scratching at the service with his potential. His hustle is there, his speed and length you can't teach, his shot is better, his handle is better, but he is still improving. When the game starts to slow down for him, he is going to be dangerous. Beal already is, but giving all that up for him, I don't think is worth it.

    Not to mention that bringing him in, takes away from Green's time on the floor and his +/- has been insane this year.

    The only way I think it works to actually get better, which Washington will not go for, is a packaging up Norm, CJ, Monroe, and Wright. Works in trade machine but no way in real life (unless Masai really is a god)

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    Anyone check the Wizards board's reaction to this trade proposal?
    If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.

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    Anyone check the Wizards board's reaction to this trade proposal?
    they are excited

    That's cute
    OG + Siakam + 2 1st rounders..

    I'd rather trade Beal to the West if we're going to trade him though.

    They definitely need to pay more then others if we're trading a 25yr old All Star in conference. Especially since we would be re tooling and not rebuilding with Wall on the team.
    And why would we essentially help them get better? Sure they have nice young guys but if Leonard resigns the east is basically fucked,
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    Quote Fury wrote: View Post
    Deal

    Replace Siakam with OG and JV with Serge. I don't care if it works, it's my fantasy dammit

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    Beal is averaging 26-5-5 in December. They are not trading him.
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    Quote MixxAOR wrote: View Post
    Beal is averaging 26-5-5 in December. They are not trading him.
    They're on a collision course with a 40 million annual deal fr wall.

    Trade or no trade, that ship is headed right for that iceberg
    It's Klaw Season. Time to hunt.

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    Not a fan of giving up Siakam simply because we are so thin up front. I don't mind moving JV although he's great here, and would really miss him. Monroe sucks and Kief is a big time bonehead and very inconsistent.

    I'd do something like: JV, Norm, Miles, Delon and 2021 pick (with protections) for Beal and Mahinmi
    http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yb8z8n4p


    At least with Mahinmi we get a center back and we wouldn't be giving up Siakam. Moving Green to the bench hurts, but we may never have to see Fred with the starting unit again so that's a bonus.

    Doubt they take that deal though.. it's pretty crappy and they still have Howard locked up for another year after this one so not sure why they want JV. CJ is cap ballast but if he gets more playing time they could convert him to a 2nd round pick by some team looking for shooting (assuming he gets it back). Delon is a throw in to even out the trade.. although OG is probably the one they would want. If it was OG I'd still make the trade.

    JV is also 4 weeks away which makes him hard to move.

    Giving up the 2021 pick would be less risky with Beal on board (although the team he's on now sucks and so we could be bad in 2021). Maybe put a top 8 pick protection on the pick and hope for the best.

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    Quote MixxAOR wrote: View Post
    Beal is averaging 26-5-5 in December. They are not trading him.
    Are you sure about that? It's now or never....


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    Are you sure about that? It's now or never....

    Too late for that. They've won too many games already.

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    Too late for that. They've won too many games already.
    Not really. They changed the rules

    http://www.tankathon.com/pick_odds

    Washington has a 9% chance at 1st overall and 18% chance at a top 2 pick but that severely decreases the more they climb the standings
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    Quote KeonClark wrote: View Post
    Not really. They changed the rules

    http://www.tankathon.com/pick_odds

    Washington has a 9% chance at 1st overall and 18% chance at a top 2 pick but that severely decreases the more they climb the standings
    Did not know that lol. When did they changed the rules?

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    Quote golden wrote: View Post
    Are you sure about that? It's now or never....

    I think they are ok with adding a draft pick to existing roster and their draft pick should be good.
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    Quote Fury wrote: View Post
    Did not know that lol. When did they changed the rules?
    Year or 2 ago to try and prevent tanking. In a way I think it does the opposite and helps tanking cause I know it gives 6 or 7 teams a real shot at a top 2 or 3 pick and it still remains that a 9th or 10th seed is the worst place you can be in the NBA.
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    hey my usual stream spot is dead can anyone help a guy out
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    damnit...I'm an idiot.... nvm. I'll leave my previous post up so I can be mocked properly for thinking the game was tonight
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    damnit...I'm an idiot.... nvm. I'll leave my previous post up so I can be mocked properly for thinking the game was tonight
    no worries, i know its been like 2 whole years since the last game! I feel your pain

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    Quote thead wrote: View Post
    damnit...I'm an idiot.... nvm. I'll leave my previous post up so I can be mocked properly for thinking the game was tonight
    Don't worry thead, it's understandable. You don't have a head
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