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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post



    Can scratch Ellington off the list
    That sucks. I hate buyout market. Raps rarely get those guys
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    He didn't go to any of East's Big 4 so that's a positive at least
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    Matthews gone, Ellington gone. This feels like freee agency where we all say "this guy who isn't going to come here would be great"
    Even worse when it's Philly or the Bucks or GSW who pick them up. Even the Pacers or *Detroit!* are seen as better landing spots since they can guarantee playing time.

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    Feels like lately playing time is the biggest motivator for these buy out candidates. And I guess I can see that considering GSW is in the league. Hard to win a chip in Toronto or Boston or Philly when that juggernaut is sitting there.

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    Quote G__Deane wrote: View Post
    Matthews gone, Ellington gone. This feels like freee agency where we all say "this guy who isn't going to come here would be great"
    Even worse when it's Philly or the Bucks or GSW who pick them up. Even the Pacers or *Detroit!* are seen as better landing spots since they can guarantee playing time.
    That's the drawback with the Raptors having too much, so-called depth. The buyout guys want guaranteed PT as a top priority since they're playing for their next contract. Teams like Detroit, Philly, Pacers have obvious spots they can fill.

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    But given the sudden depletion of the roster, you'd think some playing time would be on the table.

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    That's the drawback with the Raptors having too much, so-called depth. The buyout guys want guaranteed PT as a top priority since they're playing for their next contract. Teams like Detroit, Philly, Pacers have obvious spots they can fill.
    And yet Cleveland and golden state had no problem with end of bench guys signing the last 4 years..the "ring chasers"

    I guess those teams were guaranteed finalists whereas we're in an absolute dogfight
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    Quote SkywalkerAC wrote: View Post
    But given the sudden depletion of the roster, you'd think some playing time would be on the table.
    Yeah but you can't get starting minutes in Toronto. You can in Indiana and Detroit.

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    Ugh...

    Matthews and Ellington are the kind of players who would perfectly fit the Raptors system. Not good news.

    Hopefully the ones left and available would prefer the Raptors with aspirations for a title run vs. their playing time in preparation for their next contract.

    Masai stated that he would be aggressive in pursuing players from the BO, he is on clock.

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    Sign Randolph and Melo.


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    Quote The Claw Reborn wrote: View Post
    Ugh...

    Matthews and Ellington are the kind of players who would perfectly fit the Raptors system. Not good news.

    Hopefully the ones left and available would prefer the Raptors with aspirations for a title run vs. their playing time in preparation for their next contract.

    Masai stated that he would be aggressive in pursuing players from the BO, he is on clock.
    He can be as aggressive as he wants, players make their own choice and both of them went to non-contenders.
    Kawhi Leonard is a Toronto Raptor

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    Quote A.I wrote: View Post
    He can be as aggressive as he wants, players make their own choice and both of them went to non-contenders.
    Same narrative (not you) but some stating that Masai will stand pat because trades may not be available. Next thing we know, he was more than just counting his gray hair in front of a mirror.

    Masai is not you and me, he has clout with some of these players. Its a matter of how aggressive he is convincing them to join the Raptors title run

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    Quote KeonClark wrote: View Post
    And yet Cleveland and golden state had no problem with end of bench guys signing the last 4 years..the "ring chasers"

    I guess those teams were guaranteed finalists whereas we're in an absolute dogfight
    Those ring chasers are usually pretty washed. Useful guys like Bellinelli and Ilyasova went to Philly for playing time last year and they got lots of it. It helped them both get multi-year contracts.

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    With Ellington out.. how about Sauce?

    Only 34.4% from 3 this year, but shot 40% last year.

    44.8% on wide open 3's.. and he'll get plenty of those opportunities on Toronto.


    Bring him home?

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    I'm a fan of Malcolm Miller. Loved what i saw from his last year. He would've been a rotation player this year if not for the injury. Glad that hes back and healthy.

    As for the buy out market - there's not a lot out there. They need a big and a couple more shooters.

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    I also think they need a Point-Guard big time. Lowry and Freddy can be brittle and if we lose one of them to injury we're in trouble.

    Should go get Teodosic

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    With Ellington out.. how about Sauce?

    Only 34.4% from 3 this year, but shot 40% last year.

    44.8% on wide open 3's.. and he'll get plenty of those opportunities on Toronto.


    Bring him home?
    Sure to play the cj miles 11th guy role..but I'd prefer basketball players over specialists. Hes a glorified Brady heslip
    It's Klaw Season. Time to hunt.

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    Quote KeonClark wrote: View Post
    Sure to play the cj miles 11th guy role..but I'd prefer basketball players over specialists. Hes a glorified Brady heslip
    Lots of slim pickings now for shooters.

    Lots of nice bigs though: Kanter, Gortat, Lopez, ZBO.

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    Quote The Claw Reborn wrote: View Post
    Robyn Lopez or Marcin Gortat - 3rd big, savvy and reliable when one of the bigs goes down

    Markieff Moris - back up PF (risk due to history but heard hes a good friend of Kyle), has a decent stroke from outside who can stretch the floor. He can be the bad guy for a contender.

    Omri Casspi - another scorer (36% career beyond 22 ft)

    Wayne Ellington - dead eye shooter, Raptors are desperate to have one

    Courtney Lee - another scorer and had played with Marc in the past

    Jeremy Lin or Ben Mclemore - both can play the PG or SG position
    None of those guys really interests me.

    Lee is an inconstent shooter.

    Casspi is a terrible shooter. McLemore is meh. Morris from i've heard suffered a spinal injury or somethi g.

    The Hawks the other day said that they're not waiving anynof their veteran players.

    So there's not a lot of options.

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    Quote inthepaint wrote: View Post
    I also think they need a Point-Guard big time. Lowry and Freddy can be brittle and if we lose one of them to injury we're in trouble.

    Should go get Teodosic
    Yep. You need 1 extra PG and 1 extra big in case of injury. A combo guard and 4/5 who can rebound would be nice, in addition to the proverbial 3-pt gunslinger.

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