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inthepaint wrote: View PostYeah that'd be nice. I know Boucher is technically a PF-C, but I wonder if they gave him some of CJ's minutes at SF how he would do.
Durant played a lot SF in OKC, and is about the same height as Boucher. I think if Boucher went down a position and didn't have to deal with big C's (or PF's), he would thrive. He's tall but he's too light to play C/PF. He would defend better then CJ, shoot the 3 better, while also being more effective in rebounding & blocking. It would kill CJ's confidence if he lost minutes to Boucher, so I'd think twice before doing it, but I think it would help the team...
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Scraptor wrote: View PostI mean no offense dude but you can't just randomly turn a tall skinny guy into a SF just because a top-15 all time hall of famer did it. Position depends on skillset as much as if not more than height, and there's no evidence Boucher has the handles or defense or BBIQ to play the three. Plus he turns 26 in January and it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks.
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Scraptor wrote: View PostI mean no offense dude but you can't just randomly turn a tall skinny guy into a SF just because a top-15 all time hall of famer did it. Position depends on skillset as much as if not more than height, and there's no evidence Boucher has the handles or defense or BBIQ to play the three. Plus he turns 26 in January and it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks.
Not saying he should be a rotation piece on an important year like this, but in an positionless basketball era, I don't know if there are that many "new tricks" that he needs to learn in order to surpass CJ.Last edited by inthepaint; Mon Dec 3, 2018, 01:00 AM.
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inthepaint wrote: View PostOf course, in terms of BBIQ and skill there obviously no comparison between the two players (Boucher & Durant), just the tall/skinny frame; what I question now is that given how Miles is playing (on both ends), if Boucher would be a better defender and shooter on that position. Miles is not a ballhandler/playmaker either. Boucher (albeit only in the 905) has led fast breaks coast to coast handling the ball. There's no way to know unless it's tried in practice/games, but at least compared to this version of CJ, Boucher is taller, not much slower (he's lighter and 5 years younger), can shoot well from outside with confidence, can defend at least as well as Miles, and is a better shot blocker.
Not saying he should be a rotation piece on an important year like this, but i an positionless basketball era, I don't know if there are that many "new tricks" that needs to learn in order to surpass CJ.
Last edited by MixxAOR; Mon Dec 3, 2018, 01:07 AM.Only one thing matters: We The Champs.
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MixxAOR wrote: View PostBoucher is not really "positionless". He plays classic C role with 905. He screen and rolls, goes for offensive put backs and pick and pops on occasion. He handles once in a while in transition but it's not consistent thing with him. I don't know if he'll successed in that role with big club let alone in completely different position. I would look into bringing Jordan Loyd or Deng Abel or Malcolm Miller when he gets healthy before attempting Boucher as SF experiment.
This process won't happen within a season, he will need a summer to work this out, but the point being is that there are a few players in the 905 now (including Boucher, Adel and a healthy Miller like you mentioned) that are not that far off from potentially being more NBA impactful then CJ currently.
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The Chicago Bulls fired head coach Fred Hoiberg.
— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) December 3, 2018
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rocwell wrote: View PostThe Chicago Bulls fired head coach Fred Hoiberg.
— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) December 3, 2018
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slaw wrote: View PostBut he's a genius! LOL. Hoiberg is exhibit A when it comes to being wary of "genius" college coaches. $25,000,000 down the tubes....
My personal favorite was the campaign for the can't miss why doesn't Masai hire him.... Kevin Ollie (currently unemployed)There's no such thing as a 2nd round bust.
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So number 1 in the East... takes on number 1 in the west tonight at the Vault....
Thining that Lowry recovers from life saving back spasm treatment over the weekend and with a full complement of players (sans Norm) the Raps just clock the Nuggets tonight.There's no such thing as a 2nd round bust.
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slaw wrote: View PostBut he's a genius! LOL. Hoiberg is exhibit A when it comes to being wary of "genius" college coaches. $25,000,000 down the tubes....
In college and Jr sports youre at the mercy of your coach. He holds all the cards for your next step. The nba is the exact opposite, it's a players league where those kids are now millionaires with shoe contacts and guaranteed deals. That's the biggest change9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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KeonClark wrote: View PostNba coaching I truly believe more than anything else is about managing people. You can have all the genius x and o playbooks and ideas you want, if you cant implement them and get everybody to buy in to your concept, they're not the worth the paper they're printed on.
In college and Jr sports youre at the mercy of your coach. He holds all the cards for your next step. The nba is the exact opposite, it's a players league where those kids are now millionaires with shoe contacts and guaranteed deals. That's the biggest change
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golden wrote: View PostOKC Scott Brooks is the counter example - or at least an example where you need a minimum of both. Brooks is a players coach who was overly loyal to Kendrick Perkins to the point where he didn't recognize that he had the perfect modern NBA lineup when the Heat adjusted and went small in that OKC-MIA finals. 3 future MVPs + prime Ibaka in that lineup and the Brooks deferred to Kendrick Perkins. lol.9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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People constantly conflate personnel, management and coaching. Without defending Hoiberg, exactly what moves did the Bulls management make to help him succeed? Hoiberg is the fall guy for GarPax's questionable decisions. Maybe Hoiberg is a lousy NBA coach, maybe he isn't. But GarPax definitely set him up for failure. That's the way I see it.If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.
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