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  • ReubenJRD
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    OldSchool wrote: View Post
    Easy there young buck...calm yourself. There's nothing out there that'll instantly make this team a contender. Ive noticed that in sports today, not just in basketball but in all sports theres a tendency to fire the coach, fire the owner, fire someone anyone, at the drop of the dime as soon as the team hits some rough losing patches then you come onto blogs and threads like this and all the teenagers talk like this is normal and a good thing to do. Pathetic.

    Like someone already, said this team is still learning, its still growing and that includes the coach. Be patient, you sound like you expected us to win it all this season.
    +1. It's key, however way we look at it, Toronto still needs to build - which they aren't doing since the arrival of Gay now - and needs to develop their younger talent, and try to win with them in these different situationals. I expected Toronto would COMPETE for a playoff spot, which they are doing, but I did not expect them to be IN the playoffs. That's a difference, and a big one at that.

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  • OldSchool
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    TRex wrote: View Post
    Question, without Rudy Gay what do you think their record would be right now? i say 18-20 wins. On pace for a 25 win season. Remember they won 23 games last year. And the expectations this year and my expectation is a 35-38 win team and that's without Rudy Gay.

    Fact is, the Raps have more talent this year than last year even without Gay. They've lost so many games because of blown leads in the 4th. 13 to be exact. Most of them in my opinion because of POOR substitutions and because of the way they execute offensively and defensively. Their execution offensively since day 1 is a joke and it's still a joke. No improvement whatsoever. They're very predictable.

    The way he's handled the Bargnani situation is a joke. No way this guy should be playing 25+mins a game specially on a must win game.

    I can go on and on. Why is Anderson getting this many mins? why is JV not playing much? where the hell did Ross mins went? he was playing so well off the bench for them before the Gay trade.

    #FireCasey
    Easy there young buck...calm yourself. There's nothing out there that'll instantly make this team a contender. Ive noticed that in sports today, not just in basketball but in all sports theres a tendency to fire the coach, fire the owner, fire someone anyone, at the drop of the dime as soon as the team hits some rough losing patches then you come onto blogs and threads like this and all the teenagers talk like this is normal and a good thing to do. Pathetic.

    Like someone already, said this team is still learning, its still growing and that includes the coach. Be patient, you sound like you expected us to win it all this season.

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  • The Great One
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    RaptorReuben wrote: View Post
    Did you really think this team was going to be make a playoff spot? I thought they would compete for one, but not truly be a playoff team. How about you consider him in the wins? The team play has been absolutely great in wins. It's not always on the coach, the team played like crap.. Plain and simple.
    Question, without Rudy Gay what do you think their record would be right now? i say 18-20 wins. On pace for a 25 win season. Remember they won 23 games last year. And the expectations this year and my expectation is a 35-38 win team and that's without Rudy Gay.

    Fact is, the Raps have more talent this year than last year even without Gay. They've lost so many games because of blown leads in the 4th. 13 to be exact. Most of them in my opinion because of POOR substitutions and because of the way they execute offensively and defensively. Their execution offensively since day 1 is a joke and it's still a joke. No improvement whatsoever. They're very predictable.

    The way he's handled the Bargnani situation is a joke. No way this guy should be playing 25+mins a game specially on a must win game.

    I can go on and on. Why is Anderson getting this many mins? why is JV not playing much? where the hell did Ross mins went? he was playing so well off the bench for them before the Gay trade.

    #FireCasey

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  • ReubenJRD
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    TRex wrote: View Post
    LOL this team has UNDERACHIEVED big time. 13 fourth quarter blown leads this season(all losses). The 2 previous games against the Wiz and Cavs alone should get him fired. How do you play that lethargic on a must win game? like they have no idea what they're doing offensively and defensively. How do you lose to a bad team and a team with the worst road record in the NBA like the Wiz at home? how do you lose to Cavs team without Irving?

    I like Casey, he seems like a real nice guy but i don't think he's an NBA caliber coach.
    Did you really think this team was going to be make a playoff spot? I thought they would compete for one, but not truly be a playoff team. How about you consider him in the wins? The team play has been absolutely great in wins. It's not always on the coach, the team played like crap.. Plain and simple.

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  • torch19
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    I honestly think Dwane Casey should still be the coach for this team going forward. He has the respect of his players & they seem willing to give him an honest effort every night. I do believe that he needs a better lead assistant, someone in line to get a head coaching gig of his own & have great insight on the X's and O's. He needs work on his substitution patterns and some strategic help won't hurt.

    Personnel really dictates a lot of what happens on the court. An example is Jonas. I love the kid and he honestly works his butt off but I have seen him cause the offense to break down because of lack of awareness. He's simply not in sync with the rest of the guys in terms of timing. Obviously, that will get better as part of his development but I do see the rationale behind why he gets benched in the fourth.

    The problem is behind Jonas, there's only Andrea, Gray or the small ball. Basically, you pick your poison on what you are willing to give up. In theory, Andrea is the choice and I'm sure a lot of other coaches will say the same. He is the best option as the big guarding the pick and roll & he still can knock down a jump shot. The problem is Andrea is not willing to give an honest effort, so that alone should get him glued to the bench. If you play Aaron Gray, you're basically playing 4 on 5 on offense because opponents will sag off him on purpose. If you play small ball, more problems in terms of match-ups.

    What I'm trying to say is at this moment, we lack the talent overall as a team and I don't think that's on Casey. We have players whose skills really don't compliment each other. But I do think that he needs to re-evaluate some strategic decisions because he has a lot to improve upon himself.

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  • BasketballCrush
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    just to be in the game in the 4th quarter was an achievement, often against opponents that we had no business taking that far(obviously the vetran teams are the favoured in these situations - this is nothing to be having fits about)


    a lot of you guys want your perfect team, and want it now, I get it, I just don't think its realistic... the players are still learning to be men
    Last edited by BasketballCrush; Fri Mar 1, 2013, 05:50 PM.

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  • The Great One
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    RaptorReuben wrote: View Post
    Agreed. Dwane Casey is a fine coach, unless team looks like they've lost all confidence in Casey, or team is seriously underachieving, than go ahead and give it a makeover.
    LOL this team has UNDERACHIEVED big time. 13 fourth quarter blown leads this season(all losses). The 2 previous games against the Wiz and Cavs alone should get him fired. How do you play that lethargic on a must win game? like they have no idea what they're doing offensively and defensively. How do you lose to a bad team and a team with the worst road record in the NBA like the Wiz at home? how do you lose to Cavs team without Irving?

    I like Casey, he seems like a real nice guy but i don't think he's an NBA caliber coach.

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  • ReubenJRD
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    BasketballCrush wrote: View Post
    The only way I dump Casey is if we can interest Sloan, but other than that, there is no reason to make a coaching change.
    Agreed. Dwane Casey is a fine coach, unless team looks like they've lost all confidence in Casey, or team is seriously underachieving, than go ahead and give it a makeover.

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  • Rapstor4Life
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    BasketballCrush wrote: View Post
    The only way I dump Casey is if we can interest Sloan, but other than that, there is no reason to make a coaching change.
    +1

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  • BasketballCrush
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    The only way I dump Casey is if we can interest Sloan, but other than that, there is no reason to make a coaching change.

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  • Rapstor4Life
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    If andrea wasnt on the team we would be a better team addition by subtraction its already been proven this year. Casey Ball will never blossom as long as he is a Rap and he will continue to be scrutinized.

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  • BasketballCrush
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    Feel that SVG is not suited for a rookie team. Casey is much more patient and less venomous towards young players.

    I like Stan, but think he would be breaking more than lamps with this squad and the guys would eventually grow tired and lose their love for the game. He needs a contending team to start, IMO.


    Jeff, hasn't coached since he walked out on the Knicks. Yes he quit, right in the middle of practice. So I don't think the patience is there either.


    Think Casey is the best man for the job right now.
    Last edited by BasketballCrush; Fri Mar 1, 2013, 05:06 PM.

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  • ReubenJRD
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    psrs1 wrote: View Post
    Do you think he will re-assess substitution patterns if BC and AB were gone?
    More so Andrea than Colangelo. Only reason from the top of my head he's getting playing time is playing for value. He certainly hasn't earned any playing time in my opinion, but he's getting burn regardless, which is absolutely mind-bobbling if this team wants to make the playoffs.

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  • psrs1
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    Do you think he will re-assess substitution patterns if BC and AB were gone?

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  • psrs1
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    trex wrote: View Post
    this team is not going anywhere with dwane casey. These past 2 games alone should get him fired. Not to mention all the 4th quarter blown leads this season.

    Couple of things:

    - bargnani tonight played 15mins most of them in the 4th. Finished with 1rb and 1ast. Defensively he's a liability so if he's not hitting shots what's the point of keeping him on the floor?

    - how does jonas valanciunas not get into the game down the stretch? 5pts 8rbs 3blks in 24 mins.

    - ross didn't even play tonight. This guy before the gay trade was one of the most effective player off the bench and now he's not even getting any playing time.

    - raps offence this year reminds me alot of the kevin o'neill days. Just iso every plays. No ball movement whatsoever. Very predictable.

    - plays after timeout is non existent all season long.

    - substitution pattern is a mess

    there's a lot good coaches available. Jeff and stan van gundy just to name a few. This raps team in my opinion needs an experienced coach. A guy that's been to the playoffs, a guy that has a winning resume. This is not a shot on casey, he's a good guy but i don't think he's an nba caliber coach.
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