its not that its bad that he s 6 0, but what i meant is that you d have two similar pg in styles, so the debate is gonna start before we even get into training camp, then its BC trade happy, whereas a Big is not expected to lead right away, and either one of them would flow in perfectly with amir and JV.
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Official: Raps finish 12th - Was Lowry worth it?
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Matt52 wrote: View PostChris Paul is 6'0". Ty Lawson is 5'10". I could go on but I won't.
I suggest you read up on Burke, from DraftExpress:
His downfalls are defense and his frame which are said about every 6'0" point guard.@Chr1st1anL
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I also don't think BC would do that. After Kyle Lowry finally statrting to feel comfortable. I don't see BC doing anything to shake that up. In this draft you can't pass on the hometown kid at the position of need. Rogers/Bell would love that pick. That would sell a lot of tickets.@Chr1st1anL
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tucas wrote: View PostI don't see how some could argue he's not. With Harris, Smart, McGary, and Robinson III all returning for another year, one of the worst drafts managed to get worse. I'd be surprised if this is much better than the Kenyon Martin draft. 100% worth it.
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Dino4life wrote: View Postits not that its bad that he s 6 0, but what i meant is that you d have two similar pg in styles, so the debate is gonna start before we even get into training camp, then its BC trade happy, whereas a Big is not expected to lead right away, and either one of them would flow in perfectly with amir and JV.
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In a vacuum it's a pretty good deal. The chances of getting a better player than Lowry at #12 in this particular draft are low.
Big picture wise I still have my doubts however. The reports of him clashing with Casey and "not making any friends in Toronto" are concerning, especially since he's already worn out his welcome in two other cities. And at the end of the day he was an inconsistent piece on a 34 win team.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostLowry and Burke's game are nothing alike. In the draft you take the best talent. PG is also a very big position of need in Toronto. Burke is on a rookie deal for 4 seasons which means the Raptors would have his rights for up to 8. See how Eric Bledsoe has worked out with the Clippers.
Weak players shy away from competition.... You should always be prepared for competition (from within your team and from other teams).
The last 2 drafts had PGs selected with #1 picks.
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There's a couple problems with the original question:
Primarily, it assumes that had the Lowry trade not occurred, we would still have finished in the exact same position in the standings. And that's impossible to assume. Maybe Calderon excels, the team is in playoff contention, and BC feels he needs to extend Calderon's contract rather than trading him. Or maybe Calderon goes down under the heavy workload, and Lucas ends up being our starter for most of the season, and the Raptors get a top 3 pick.
And given that this was a rebuilding year, I think the only real question is Lowry's long-term value to the team, which will hinge largely on the terms of Lowry's next contract and his performance under it. I was and still am entirely in favour of the Lowry trade, and if you want to reduce to a simple equation then yes, Lowry > 2013 12th overall pick.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostLowry and Burke's game are nothing alike. In the draft you take the best talent. PG is also a very big position of need in Toronto. Burke is on a rookie deal for 4 seasons which means the Raptors would have his rights for up to 8. See how Eric Bledsoe has worked out with the Clippers.@Chr1st1anL
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostBurke would have to have like crazy workouts to get up in the top 3. I just can't see that happening. He reminds me a lot of D.J. Augustin. When he was coming out of Texas. Good shooter, high ball I.Q. but nothing separate himself physically.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostLillard went 6th and is ROY. Draft placing is not necessarily indicative of talent or impact in the league. Draftexpress has him at 6 after being 17 just 6 weeks ago. Moving higher is not out of the question.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostLillard went 6th and is ROY. Draft placing is not necessarily indicative of talent or impact in the league. Draftexpress has him at 6 after being 17 just 6 weeks ago. Moving higher is not out of the question.@Chr1st1anL
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