(Disclaimer: This is not an Andrew Wiggans thread)
What do you say we become the worst team in the NBA? BCs desperation has left us in NBA no-mans land.:
We are headed for AT LEAST 3 more years of irrelevancy as currently constructed under this strategy. This thread is about limiting our continued irrelevancy to only 3 years by aggressively tanking and trading away all current assets for terrible players/contracts and draft picks.
Move 1:
Trade Rudy and Landry to the Nets for Gerald Wallace, Chris Humphries and a 1st round pick in 2014
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ct86vho
Given that money is no object for the Nets, perhaps they could even pony up some cash for a potential Wallace buy out in 2015. Rudy and Landry are both overpaid, but the Nets do this to get out of the Wallace deal and to add another “star”. Derron/JJ/Rudy/Evans/Brook. That’s a quasi-contender that King can sell to the Russian as a real contender.
Move 2
Trade Amir to Phoenix for Beasley and a (protected) first round pick
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=chxpgj6
Not sure we can land their top 5 pick this year for taking Beez off their hands and giving them Amir. But if we protect it like: Top 10 (2013), Top 5 (2014), Top 5 (2015), Top 3 (2016), unprotected (2017), they might bite on the chance to ditch Beez and we’d still get a lottery pick out of it.
Move 3
Trade Lowry and Demar to Detroit for Jerebko, Stuckey and their (top 5 protected) 2013 first rounder
(Note: This trade fails straight-up in the trade machine, but after the first 2 moves, it works)
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=btjas5p
Detroit gives up a mid-lotto pick to get out of 2 bad contracts, get a good one back (Kyle) and add a pretty good young piece on the wing (Demar). Kyle and Demar are probably both better than what they’d get at 7 this draft, and it accelerates their rebuild.
Then we bring back Grey, Anderson and Lucas. Your 2013-2014 Toronto Raptors (!!!!):
1) Stuckey, Lucas
2) Ross, Anderson
3) Wallace, Beasley, Jerebko
4) Bargnani, Humphies, Acy
5) Valanciunas, Grey
Plus a top 10 pick in 2013 from the Pistons (say, MCW). We could provide heavy minutes to a young lineup of MCW/Ross/Jerebko/Acy/Val. Is that bad enough to virtually guarantee a top 3 pick in 2014? I say yes. We might even get a top 3 pick in 2015 with this core. Plus, we get a team with 2 guys named Jonas!
Then Stuckey and Hump are off the books, and Beez/Wallace/Bargs can be bought out or paid to stay home. That leaves us going into 2016 with:
We’d have cap space to fill out the roster with veteran leaders as needed, plus potentially get a star to fill whichever remaining hole is biggest.
We would need a care taker coach for the next few years before bringing in somebody to guide the team forward – similar to the Carlisimo/Brooks handoff in Seattle/OKC (although they may have misfired with Brooks a little). PJ is available.
Now that I’ve gone through all this, my questions for y’all are:
What do you say we become the worst team in the NBA? BCs desperation has left us in NBA no-mans land.:
- Not good enough to win a playoff series
- Unlikely to even make the playoffs
- Still too good to not get an impactful draft pick
- Too tied up in terms of cap space to sign a star player
- Not enough players with trade via to improve the team via trade
We are headed for AT LEAST 3 more years of irrelevancy as currently constructed under this strategy. This thread is about limiting our continued irrelevancy to only 3 years by aggressively tanking and trading away all current assets for terrible players/contracts and draft picks.
Move 1:
Trade Rudy and Landry to the Nets for Gerald Wallace, Chris Humphries and a 1st round pick in 2014
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ct86vho
Given that money is no object for the Nets, perhaps they could even pony up some cash for a potential Wallace buy out in 2015. Rudy and Landry are both overpaid, but the Nets do this to get out of the Wallace deal and to add another “star”. Derron/JJ/Rudy/Evans/Brook. That’s a quasi-contender that King can sell to the Russian as a real contender.
Move 2
Trade Amir to Phoenix for Beasley and a (protected) first round pick
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=chxpgj6
Not sure we can land their top 5 pick this year for taking Beez off their hands and giving them Amir. But if we protect it like: Top 10 (2013), Top 5 (2014), Top 5 (2015), Top 3 (2016), unprotected (2017), they might bite on the chance to ditch Beez and we’d still get a lottery pick out of it.
Move 3
Trade Lowry and Demar to Detroit for Jerebko, Stuckey and their (top 5 protected) 2013 first rounder
(Note: This trade fails straight-up in the trade machine, but after the first 2 moves, it works)
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=btjas5p
Detroit gives up a mid-lotto pick to get out of 2 bad contracts, get a good one back (Kyle) and add a pretty good young piece on the wing (Demar). Kyle and Demar are probably both better than what they’d get at 7 this draft, and it accelerates their rebuild.
Then we bring back Grey, Anderson and Lucas. Your 2013-2014 Toronto Raptors (!!!!):
1) Stuckey, Lucas
2) Ross, Anderson
3) Wallace, Beasley, Jerebko
4) Bargnani, Humphies, Acy
5) Valanciunas, Grey
Plus a top 10 pick in 2013 from the Pistons (say, MCW). We could provide heavy minutes to a young lineup of MCW/Ross/Jerebko/Acy/Val. Is that bad enough to virtually guarantee a top 3 pick in 2014? I say yes. We might even get a top 3 pick in 2015 with this core. Plus, we get a team with 2 guys named Jonas!
Then Stuckey and Hump are off the books, and Beez/Wallace/Bargs can be bought out or paid to stay home. That leaves us going into 2016 with:
- Ross
- Val
- Acy
- Detroit’s 2013 (#7)
- Brooklyn’s late 2014 first rounder
- Phoenix’s 2014, 2015 2016 pick (likely #6-10)
- Our top 3 2014 pick
- Our top 3 2015 pick
- 2 high second round picks of our own
We’d have cap space to fill out the roster with veteran leaders as needed, plus potentially get a star to fill whichever remaining hole is biggest.
We would need a care taker coach for the next few years before bringing in somebody to guide the team forward – similar to the Carlisimo/Brooks handoff in Seattle/OKC (although they may have misfired with Brooks a little). PJ is available.
Now that I’ve gone through all this, my questions for y’all are:
- Would you be on board with another 3-5 year rebuild if we really, truly committed to bottoming out?
- Do you think a massive rebuild like this is even necessary, or do you want to roll with the core as constructed?
- What do you think the likelihood of any/all of these moves from the other team’s perspective? Could this actually be pulled off?
- Do you have your own ideas of how to tank & rebuild?
- Do you think we could embark on a strategy like this without mortally wounding the development of any young guys (Ross/Val/etc)?
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