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Matt52 wrote: View PostI find it interesting how I get labeled a DD hater/basher/whatever for simply stating at 24 years of age with 4 years, 9700NBA minutes under his belt, and 3 years of being a 1st or 2nd option with history and statistics to back the claim he is what he is yet you continuously take childish jabs at Fields and Ross and it is somehow appropriate.... one player coming off severe injury to his shooting arm and one year older than DD and the other a rookie never given much of an opportunity and 2 years younger.@Chr1st1anL
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostI feel like people go so hard on Fields and Ross is cause of you and other forum members who made a claim that either one of those players would make the team better without any real proof. Just doubting the fact a 24 year old can not get any better in his carreer.
I know I brought up both in the past as an alternative. At this point in time not realistic to say Ross makes team better given what he has shown not is there any statistical claim to back it up. The aegument Ross' skill set is better for team is based on same hope and potential argument of derozan. Fields on other hand has a few stats to back up the claim he'd make team better - both individual and team.
Both players style tend to be better sited without a stretch 4 to the current starters (gay. Lowry, Amir, JV) but that is an old argument and had nothing to do with the b.s. given to fields and Ross.
I am not sure what is considered real proof outside of stats and eye test.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostThat is fair.
I know I brought up both in the past as an alternative. At this point in time not realistic to say Ross makes team better given what he has shown not is there any statistical claim to back it up. The aegument Ross' skill set is better for team is based on same hope and potential argument of derozan. Fields on other hand has a few stats to back up the claim he'd make team better - both individual and team.
Both players style tend to be better sited without a stretch 4 to the current starters (gay. Lowry, Amir, JV) but that is an old argument and had nothing to do with the b.s. given to fields and Ross.
I am not sure what is considered real proof outside of stats and eye test.
DeMar seem to be the more proven at the moment. It's true DD has played all these minutes and has been the 1st and 2nd option. Has he really ever had a consistent 1st option that stayed heathly and he hasn't been pushed to being the 1st option half way through the season? Coming out college DeMar was being compared to players like Josh Howard and Caron Butler. Legit number two options in thier careers. From what his done so fat his lived up to that. Even though I don't except DD's production to really go up but I do except his efficiency to go up this year. His defense I feel will improve a bit. Him not playing majority of his minutes with AB should help. All around having a better defensive players around him. Also Casey 3rd year shouldn't be taken likely.@Chr1st1anL
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostPersonally I feel you can't make a case for either 3 to be a better fit without a stretch 4. Ross is inexperience and hasn't proven he can consistently hit the NBA 3. Fields has a broken shoot. For all we know his first year was fluke. Andrea shot 40 % from 3 one year too. From the outside looking in. It seem like he hasn't really workout much this offseason.
DeMar seem to be the more proven at the moment. It's true DD has played all these minutes and has been the 1st and 2nd option. Has he really ever had a consistent 1st option that stayed heathly and he hasn't been pushed to being the 1st option half way through the season? Coming out college DeMar was being compared to players like Josh Howard and Caron Butler. Legit number two options in thier careers. From what his done so fat his lived up to that. Even though I don't except DD's production to really go up but I do except his efficiency to go up this year. His defense I feel will improve a bit. Him not playing majority of his minutes with AB should help. All around having a better defensive players around him. Also Casey 3rd year shouldn't be taken likely.
I just deleted typed comment. I really don't want to get in to discussion again. As p00ka routinely and regularly points out I've made same comments numerous times. I truly am looking forward to seeing how it all plays out and I would not mind in the slightest if I am wrong on DD. This was the only point I wanted to make because the childishness is, well, childish:
I find it interesting how I get labeled a DD hater/basher/whatever for simply stating at 24 years of age with 4 years, 9700NBA minutes under his belt, and 3 years of being a 1st or 2nd option with history and statistics to back the claim he is what he is yet you continuously take childish jabs at Fields and Ross and it is somehow appropriate.... one player coming off severe injury to his shooting arm and one year older than DD and the other a rookie never given much of an opportunity and 2 years younger.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostI find it interesting how I get labeled a DD hater/basher/whatever for simply stating at 24 years of age with 4 years, 9700NBA minutes under his belt, and 3 years of being a 1st or 2nd option with history and statistics to back the claim he is what he is yet you continuously take childish jabs at Fields and Ross and it is somehow appropriate.... one player coming off severe injury to his shooting arm and one year older than DD and the other a rookie never given much of an opportunity and 2 years younger.
EDIT: On second thought, not saying Ross is a d-league caliber player. But if we had an alternative at backup 2 I wouldn't mind sending him to the d-league. He seems like a guy who could use the confidence boost of averaging 20+ppg down there and tearing shit up.Last edited by Xixak; Tue Aug 6, 2013, 11:24 PM.
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