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  • lilmamba_ wrote: View Post
    he needs to go and i know both tankers and non tankers agree
    you dont want him developing Wiggins now, do you?
    The whole team, minus TL and MU need to go.

    I have no problem trading anybody on the team, other than JV to be honest.

    I'd love to keep Tyler/Amir, for their energy, but everybody else, IMHO, is very expendable.

    However, If down to the wire, i'd take Tyler over Amir, simply for the contract and stuff.

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    • This is my first ever post. I just want to direct you to



      Look how they handled the situation raptros basically had against the nets. (the last shot). Now thats a play

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      • skyesonic wrote: View Post
        This is my first ever post. I just want to direct you to



        Look how they handled the situation raptros basically had against the nets. (the last shot). Now thats a play
        Good first post. Keep them coming.

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        • Last nights game against Brooklyn looked like Casey was coaching to lose. Some of the worst coaching decisions he has made all year. Putting Amir in the corner for that last shot is just one example. It was a good play because you know the help is coming, but why on earth do you have Amir in the corner? Casey's rotations sucked as well. I thought during the 2nd quarter that maybe Casey was trying to minimize the amount of time DD and Gay played together and I don't know what the logic was but keeping the only two guys that were playing well off the floor as long as he did was like coaching to lose IMO. Fourth quarter was the same, with a long stretch where the only starter on the floor was Gay, so it was pretty obvious how the offense was gonna go...Rudy ISO's. Rudy can't even hit an alley-oop right now so fielding a lineup where he is pretty much your only offensive option is just terrible coaching. Absolutely disgusting basketball in a must win game. I know if this wants to tank, then the best way to go about it is to let Casey do what he is doing, keep JV and Gay and move everyone else on the roster.

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          • JawsGT wrote: View Post
            Last nights game against Brooklyn looked like Casey was coaching to lose. Some of the worst coaching decisions he has made all year. Putting Amir in the corner for that last shot is just one example. It was a good play because you know the help is coming, but why on earth do you have Amir in the corner? Casey's rotations sucked as well. I thought during the 2nd quarter that maybe Casey was trying to minimize the amount of time DD and Gay played together and I don't know what the logic was but keeping the only two guys that were playing well off the floor as long as he did was like coaching to lose IMO. Fourth quarter was the same, with a long stretch where the only starter on the floor was Gay, so it was pretty obvious how the offense was gonna go...Rudy ISO's. Rudy can't even hit an alley-oop right now so fielding a lineup where he is pretty much your only offensive option is just terrible coaching. Absolutely disgusting basketball in a must win game. I know if this wants to tank, then the best way to go about it is to let Casey do what he is doing, keep JV and Gay and move everyone else on the roster.

            I am certainly not going to defend the play, as there was no player movement, no screens, etc. It was simply, give the ball to Rudy and let him go to work. If that is the play calling then I am confounded as to how Casey is an NBA head coach. But, if there had been screens set, and players moving, I would understand why Amir would end up in the corner. The point was to try and draw Garnett away from the rim to open up more of a lane...but without a screen or cuts being made...what is the point?

            I think Rudy actually made the right decision. The lane was clogged, he was getting double-teamed, and he swung the ball to the open man. We chastise him for being selfish, and now we are ripping on him for making the right decision on a poor play call. The blame in this situation doesn't go to Rudy or Amir...the blame most certainly goes on Casey.
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            • You don't fire a guy unless you have someone better in your sights. I don't know who that is realistically but in a year where they're probably headed for the lotto it would be short sighted to pull the trigger right now. They should let it ride until the regular season is over.

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              • Apollo wrote: View Post
                You don't fire a guy unless you have someone better in your sights. I don't know who that is realistically but in a year where they're probably headed for the lotto it would be short sighted to pull the trigger right now. They should let it ride until the regular season is over.
                I think I agree. But I always tend to give the coach the benefit of the doubt when it comes to pro ball. I've posted about it before, but if grown-ass men in shorts do not listen to another grown-ass man in a suit, there's not much the man in the suit can do. And before you trot out the 'OK, so he's lost the lockerroom, they need a new coach' line, maybe NO coach could get this misfit bunch to run a reasonable offense. All it takes is one ball-stopper or poor decision-maker to ruin an otherwise well-designed play.

                I have issues with the rotations, not so much with the play calls. All a coach can do is call the play; he can't run it, and he can't guarantee the players are going to run it properly as designed, or that they won't freelance it, etc.

                The last play last night, yeah, Amir was in the corner to draw his defender out of the key. I don't even know why Gay was the ball-handler on that play; if that was by play design, then I agree it was a bad call by coach. If not, the result is on the in-bounder and on Gay. On the last play of a 2-point game, the ball should have started in Lowry or Derozan's hands, one of the two players who had shown game-long that they had it going and were making generally good decisions with the ball. Even so, as it was, Gay should probably have done what he does all game long and driven the lane looking for a foul, over passing to Amir for a 3. Or forced a pass to someone else. Would have to look at the video, but I seem to remember there was ample time on the clock to do something other than dribble at the top of the key and then send it out to Amir with 1 second left...
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                • Apollo wrote: View Post
                  You don't fire a guy unless you have someone better in your sights. I don't know who that is realistically but in a year where they're probably headed for the lotto it would be short sighted to pull the trigger right now. They should let it ride until the regular season is over.

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                  If MU already knows Casey wont be back why not fire him now and give one of assistants a shot? Alternatively hire a big name coach that will be clearly in charge and does not have the pressure to win now vs looking toward the future.

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                  • I think Casey should review his rotations... Or the Raptors need to get a new coach. Last night was just awful. Benching DeMar and Lowry (by far the 2 best players yesterday) for more than 5 minutes in the beginning of the 2nd quarter and pretty much the same thing in the beginning of the 4th, as they just had a 3 day break and they have another just after the game, was plain stupid. Put Augustin and Buycks in the game for about 5 minutes each instead of about 10 minutes for one or the other, plain stupid, since neither could get into game ''temperature''. Same for playing Fields for about 5 minutes in the beginning of the 4th. Plain stupid, since he didn't play for the whole game. I mean, make them play for real or don't make play them at all.

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                    • Lame. Duck. Coach.
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                      • Apollo wrote: View Post
                        You don't fire a guy unless you have someone better in your sights. I don't know who that is realistically but in a year where they're probably headed for the lotto it would be short sighted to pull the trigger right now. They should let it ride until the regular season is over.

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                        Only wiht the stipulation to Casey: Play the youth and show improvement in them.

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                        • I'm not sure what everyone is crying about.

                          Standard play call, Rudy with room to move left or right, penetrates, if the double comes, you move the ball to the open corner for the look. Johnson was wide open, it was a good play, it was executed well, the guy missed the shot. Its that simple.

                          Amir has been hitting that shot, and there is no reason to believe he wa sa poor choice to have in that spot. I liked it, and frankly, I thought he was going to make it when he got it.

                          If you don't like Amir, or you don't think he should shoot, than why the hell is he in the NBA, or on the Raptors.

                          Don't look for an issue where there is none.

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                          • Craig wrote: View Post
                            I'm not sure what everyone is crying about.

                            Standard play call, Rudy with room to move left or right, penetrates, if the double comes, you move the ball to the open corner for the look. Johnson was wide open, it was a good play, it was executed well, the guy missed the shot. Its that simple.

                            Amir has been hitting that shot, and there is no reason to believe he wa sa poor choice to have in that spot. I liked it, and frankly, I thought he was going to make it when he got it.

                            If you don't like Amir, or you don't think he should shoot, than why the hell is he in the NBA, or on the Raptors.

                            Don't look for an issue where there is none.
                            I can't tell if this is being sarcastic or not ... but either way, I disagree with it.

                            Amir should not have been the 'bail out' for Rudy. Heck, switch Demar and Amir in that situation and it makes 1,000x more sense already. Demar is lights out from the Corner. If it truly was the play call to have Amir in the corner "ready" to shoot, while Novak, Demar etc. are running around, crashing the glass, its beyond silly. But that's just me.

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                            • joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
                              I can't tell if this is being sarcastic or not ... but either way, I disagree with it.

                              Amir should not have been the 'bail out' for Rudy. Heck, switch Demar and Amir in that situation and it makes 1,000x more sense already. Demar is lights out from the Corner. If it truly was the play call to have Amir in the corner ready to shoot, while Novak, Demar etc. are running around, its beyond silly. But that's just me.
                              I agree. The play itself was well designed, since it got a guy an open shot. I think the question is why not simply switch Amir & Novak, so that the rebounder is down low to rebound and the 3pt specialist is outside to take the game-winning 3pt shot. If doing so means the double-team never comes, then Gay is free to penetrate and either take the ball to the hoop or look for other open look options as the play unfolds.

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                              • Craig wrote: View Post
                                I'm not sure what everyone is crying about.

                                Standard play call, Rudy with room to move left or right, penetrates, if the double comes, you move the ball to the open corner for the look. Johnson was wide open, it was a good play, it was executed well, the guy missed the shot. Its that simple.

                                Amir has been hitting that shot, and there is no reason to believe he wa sa poor choice to have in that spot. I liked it, and frankly, I thought he was going to make it when he got it.

                                If you don't like Amir, or you don't think he should shoot, than why the hell is he in the NBA, or on the Raptors.

                                Don't look for an issue where there is none.
                                That shot? No, he hasn't. Maybe in practice or warmup, but not in-game. Amir is really bad on corner 3s (1/7 this year), and almost never shoots from the left corner. If he's shooting from the right wing, absolutely. That's his shot. But this play had the worst corner-3 shooter on the court in the corner.

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