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Your comment had been "It's a Canadian tradition to ascend to the NBA and rest up in the summer.", but when questioned about the extant this "tradition", you now say "declined for whatever reason". Tough to debate someone that keeps moving the target.
Interesting list to justify fear that current young players may "decline". Going back as far as Wenningtin and Fox? Really?
Nash: put in over 10 years with the national team. He was in his 30s, with on-going back issues when he backed off. I don't think anybody anyone is talking about quite fits that scenario.
Wennington: played for 5 years, including world universiade team, was on 1984 Olympic team, then couldn't play as a pro until 1992 when pros were allowed, which he did. By the time next Olympics came, he was 33 and on the decline.
Fox: A unique one. Had nothing to do with "resting". He spent his summers chasing a future career as an actor, involved in numerous movie and TV projects. Does anyone currently fit such a profile?
Magloire: Don't know his story, but his game never came close to suitable for the international game. However you win that one, however much it has to do with current young players.
Dalembert: Wasn't a citizen until Aug 2007, and promptly joined the national team, until kicked off by Leo. Hardly fits the "tradition of resting in the summer". Sporadic?
Thompson: competed for Canada at Under 18s, and Under 19s. Only summer he hasn't been involved with Canada Basketball is 2011, when he was a fresh 20 year old 4th pick overall by the Cavs. Any chance they insisted he spend the summer preparing for his 1st NBA season? Hardly a "rest for the summer" scenario.
Sacre: He was involved with Canada Basketball from 2006 to 2010, where he got very little playing time for the senior team, at least in part because his game isn't suited for FIBA . Being a 60th pick in 2012, and a FA in 2013, he was scrambling for his NBA life both summers, and I'd be shocked that anybody doesn't understand his priority for those 2 summers was to prepare in every way possible for the Lakers, not sit on the bench for Canada's team.
Olynyk: Where did you see he didn't have plantar fasciitis? That he was practicing the week before means nothing. He was still at Canada's training camp, to still be involved in the program despite being unable to play, or do you think Team Canada didn't know about his Gonzaga practices and he pulled a fast one on them? PS. he has been involved with Canada basketball since Under-18s.
Wiggins: So you think a high school kid, who hadn't even played a game of college ball, and whose priority was preparing for the same, could have helped Canada be better against grown men? You bring this up to support "get to the NBA then rest for summers"? He wasn't even in college!
If you want to play the cynical *$&^@ over these young men who have committed, have at it, but that is a lame argument to support it.
Interesting list to justify fear that current young players may "decline". Going back as far as Wenningtin and Fox? Really?
Nash: put in over 10 years with the national team. He was in his 30s, with on-going back issues when he backed off. I don't think anybody anyone is talking about quite fits that scenario.
Wennington: played for 5 years, including world universiade team, was on 1984 Olympic team, then couldn't play as a pro until 1992 when pros were allowed, which he did. By the time next Olympics came, he was 33 and on the decline.
Fox: A unique one. Had nothing to do with "resting". He spent his summers chasing a future career as an actor, involved in numerous movie and TV projects. Does anyone currently fit such a profile?
Magloire: Don't know his story, but his game never came close to suitable for the international game. However you win that one, however much it has to do with current young players.
Dalembert: Wasn't a citizen until Aug 2007, and promptly joined the national team, until kicked off by Leo. Hardly fits the "tradition of resting in the summer". Sporadic?
Thompson: competed for Canada at Under 18s, and Under 19s. Only summer he hasn't been involved with Canada Basketball is 2011, when he was a fresh 20 year old 4th pick overall by the Cavs. Any chance they insisted he spend the summer preparing for his 1st NBA season? Hardly a "rest for the summer" scenario.
Sacre: He was involved with Canada Basketball from 2006 to 2010, where he got very little playing time for the senior team, at least in part because his game isn't suited for FIBA . Being a 60th pick in 2012, and a FA in 2013, he was scrambling for his NBA life both summers, and I'd be shocked that anybody doesn't understand his priority for those 2 summers was to prepare in every way possible for the Lakers, not sit on the bench for Canada's team.
Olynyk: Where did you see he didn't have plantar fasciitis? That he was practicing the week before means nothing. He was still at Canada's training camp, to still be involved in the program despite being unable to play, or do you think Team Canada didn't know about his Gonzaga practices and he pulled a fast one on them? PS. he has been involved with Canada basketball since Under-18s.
Wiggins: So you think a high school kid, who hadn't even played a game of college ball, and whose priority was preparing for the same, could have helped Canada be better against grown men? You bring this up to support "get to the NBA then rest for summers"? He wasn't even in college!
If you want to play the cynical *$&^@ over these young men who have committed, have at it, but that is a lame argument to support it.
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