Game #7 - Hawks @ RAPTORS - Monday, October 31 @ 7:30pm on SN1

[DanH]

Disagree on Nick punting the minutes. Unless playing Flynn is considered punting minutes.

But on what grounds do you disagree? He rested both Pascal and Scottie at the same time in a game with no Fred. That's just stupid on the face of it, guaranteed disaster lineup. Doesn't matter if Flynn or Banton or Trent is out there as the guard.

[Primer]

But on what grounds do you disagree? He rested both Pascal and Scottie at the same time in a game with no Fred. That's just stupid on the face of it, guaranteed disaster lineup. Doesn't matter if Flynn or Banton or Trent is out there as the guard.

Yet didn't ruin the plus minus of anyone but Flynn, and even if it wasn't our ideal lineup it was against opposing bench players, the kind of guys Flynn should be able to beat. Flynn is a ball handler so Pascal and Scottie are the exact guys he is there to get rest for.

[DanH]

Yet didn't ruin the plus minus of anyone but Flynn, and even if it wasn't our ideal lineup it was against opposing bench players, the kind of guys Flynn should be able to beat. Flynn is a ball handler so Pascal and Scottie are the exact guys he is there to get rest for.

Sure it did. Everyone in that lineup was -6 in those 4 minutes. Everyone else got to play other minutes with actual good lineups so had plenty of time to make up for it.

Pascal and Scottie are hubs. No nominal ball handling bench player is going to make a lineup successful without them.

[Primer]

Sure it did. Everyone in that lineup was -6 in those 4 minutes. Everyone else got to play other minutes with actual good lineups so had plenty of time to make up for it.

Pascal and Scottie are hubs. No nominal ball handling bench player is going to make a lineup successful without them.

Flynn played in 5 different lineups during that game. 3 of which were with Pascal, and those 3 all had a negative plus minus. One of them was with Pascal and Scottie and it was still a negative lineup. Flynn had 1 positive lineup and it was with Juancho, Dowtin, Champagne, and Banton. So your whole premise falls apart when you look at the data. The common denominator in bad lineups is Flynn.

[DanH]

Flynn played in 5 different lineups during that game. 3 of which were with Pascal, and those 3 all had a negative plus minus. One of them was with Pascal and Scottie and it was still a negative lineup. Flynn had 1 positive lineup and it was with Juancho, Dowtin, Champagne, and Banton. So your whole premise falls apart when you look at the data. The common denominator in bad lineups is Flynn.

Those other lineups were all for like a possession or two each way. This is not the way to evaluate players.

[Primer]

Those other lineups were all for like a possession or two each way. This is not the way to evaluate players.

Sure, I base my evaluation on watching him. The stats back that evaluation up.

[DanH]

Sure, I base my evaluation on watching him. The stats back that evaluation up.

If you mean the stats back up the idea that Flynn is significantly worse than any of the other depth bench guys who shouldn't play, like Banton, they really don't.

[Primer]

If you mean the stats back up the idea that Flynn is significantly worse than any of the other depth bench guys who shouldn't play, like Banton, they really don't.

I wouldn't say he's significantly worse than Banton, but he's still worse.

[A.I]

Well Banton hit 3 threes yesterday. If he can at least knock down open 3s, Flynn is as good as gone.