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  • Primer
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    slaw wrote: View Post

    The Rogers NHL TV deal they signed 10 years ago is about the same as both US tv deals combined right now. That doesn't include the TSN regional deals. Also, the NHL wanted $750 million per year and got less than $600.

    Again, this NBA-NBC deal will be the worst tv rights deal ever signed. Comcast will be begging someone to take games off their hands inside 3 years. Wait until they try to sell their shitty streaming services with this and it flops.

    Again, one streaming that makes money. It has zero sports and wants none. Lesson in there.
    Why do you keep saying Comcasts deal? They got 1/3 the rights. ESPN and Amazon also ponied up billions and they have the playoffs. 3 major broadcasters split the rights not just NBC.

    The USA NHL deal is $625M per year, not less than $600, and it's more than double the prior deal. So even if they don't get $750 they still more than doubled the prior deal.

    The Roger's NHL deal was $5.2B Canadian over 12 years. That's $3.8B USA. Divided by 12 thats $317M per year so half the USA deal not double it.

    Netflix also does want sports and has been airing live events.

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  • slaw
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    Primer wrote: View Post

    Yes!

    WB made shits tons of money on the last deal. Hand over fist.

    That's why the new deal is so much larger.

    Canadian NHL deal is beyond irrelevant. The USA NHL deal is all that matters and that more than doubled last time it was up for grabs. It will more than double again next time it's up for grabs.
    The Rogers NHL TV deal they signed 10 years ago is about the same as both US tv deals combined right now. That doesn't include the TSN regional deals. Also, the NHL wanted $750 million per year and got less than $600.

    Again, this NBA-NBC deal will be the worst tv rights deal ever signed. Comcast will be begging someone to take games off their hands inside 3 years. Wait until they try to sell their shitty streaming services with this and it flops.

    Again, one streaming that makes money. It has zero sports and wants none. Lesson in there.

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  • Primer
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    slaw wrote: View Post

    That’s what Rogers thought.

    Also why Disney has been trying to sell ESPN and no one wants it.
    This just isn't true at all. Disney has considered adding minority investors to ESPN because it is so much more profitable than their TV and movie business, it's a super easy way to raise more money.

    This was all over a year ago and they don't seem interested at all anymore. I think the combined sports package streaming service (Venu Sports) they're launching is where they ended up.

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  • Primer
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    slaw wrote: View Post

    Just like WB, right?

    It's important to remember that just because the tv rights deals have gone up in recent times, it does not mean they will always go up. Wait until you see the next Canadian NHL deal, for example.
    Yes!

    WB made shits tons of money on the last deal. Hand over fist.

    That's why the new deal is so much larger.

    Canadian NHL deal is beyond irrelevant. The USA NHL deal is all that matters and that more than doubled last time it was up for grabs. It will more than double again next time it's up for grabs.

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  • slaw
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    golden wrote: View Post

    There’s also the constant stream of adjacent NBA content that feeds news and sports platforms that multi-channel networks can monetize. Some people don’t even watch games anymore, just highlights, twitter and hot take shows.
    That’s what Rogers thought.

    Also why Disney has been trying to sell ESPN and no one wants it.

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  • golden
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    Primer wrote: View Post

    Why do people keep saying the NBC - NBA deal?

    3 major networks own NBA rights, not just NBC.

    It's ESPN, NBC, and Amazon.

    Even more importantly, ESPN owns the full rights to the NBA Finals, so this viewership data doesn't mean anything to NBC they don't own those games.

    I can also guarantee all 3 make lots of money off these rights and will pay even more to retain them when it comes up again.

    Sports content is the only thing people will watch commercials. These networks make money off commercials. The NBA rights are worth way beyond their viewership numbers because everyone watching it is forced to watched commercials. That's not the case with any non sports content they own.
    There’s also the constant stream of adjacent NBA content that feeds news and sports platforms that multi-channel networks can monetize. Some people don’t even watch games anymore, just highlights, twitter and hot take shows.

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  • 3inthekeon
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    slaw wrote: View Post

    This will be worse. NBC will be licensing games and making them PPV on Paramount to try and get out from under this.
    Bally is in bankruptcy court. The NBC deal won't be worse.

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  • slaw
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    Primer wrote: View Post

    Why do people keep saying the NBC - NBA deal?

    3 major networks own NBA rights, not just NBC.

    It's ESPN, NBC, and Amazon.

    Even more importantly, ESPN owns the full rights to the NBA Finals, so this viewership data doesn't mean anything to NBC they don't own those games.

    I can also guarantee all 3 make lots of money off these rights and will pay even more to retain them when it comes up again.

    Sports content is the only thing people will watch commercials. These networks make money off commercials. The NBA rights are worth way beyond their viewership numbers because everyone watching it is forced to watched commercials. That's not the case with any non sports content they own.
    Just like WB, right?

    It's important to remember that just because the tv rights deals have gone up in recent times, it does not mean they will always go up. Wait until you see the next Canadian NHL deal, for example.

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  • slaw
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    3inthekeon wrote: View Post

    I guess you haven't heard of the Bally/ Diamond fiasco.
    This will be worse. NBC will be licensing games and making them PPV on Paramount to try and get out from under this.

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  • 3inthekeon
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    slaw wrote: View Post

    The NBC-NBA deal will go down as the worst tv rights package of all time.
    I guess you haven't heard of the Bally/ Diamond fiasco.

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  • Primer
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    slaw wrote: View Post

    The NBC-NBA deal will go down as the worst tv rights package of all time.
    Why do people keep saying the NBC - NBA deal?

    3 major networks own NBA rights, not just NBC.

    It's ESPN, NBC, and Amazon.

    Even more importantly, ESPN owns the full rights to the NBA Finals, so this viewership data doesn't mean anything to NBC they don't own those games.

    I can also guarantee all 3 make lots of money off these rights and will pay even more to retain them when it comes up again.

    Sports content is the only thing people will watch commercials. These networks make money off commercials. The NBA rights are worth way beyond their viewership numbers because everyone watching it is forced to watched commercials. That's not the case with any non sports content they own.

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  • slaw
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    The Great One wrote: View Post
    Anyone else shocked by this? I mentioned it already, the NBA Finals presentation was so bad and lacks substance. The halftime show was 95% commercials. The broadcast crew was horrible.

    Also, this has been going on for years and years now. The major networks in the US only talks about 2-3 teams every year. It's the Lakers, Warriors and sometimes Heat. And they always only talk about 2 players. LeBron and Steph. Even when they're bad that's all they talk about. The Lakers and the Warriors.

    What's happening right now is when there's no LeBron or Steph in the Finals, fans are just not invested in the product. And there's no one else to blame here but the NBA and their media partners.
    The NBC-NBA deal will go down as the worst tv rights package of all time.

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  • chris
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    neither steph or lebron were involved last year so that's obviously not the reason for the 11% drop

    really just most ppl feel like fuck boston... who TF wants to watch them beat up on another wounded squad? not i, nor john q public apparently

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  • MixxAOR
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    Casual people only care about Lebron and Steph. GOAT contender and best shooter of all time is easy sell

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  • The Great One
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    Anyone else shocked by this? I mentioned it already, the NBA Finals presentation was so bad and lacks substance. The halftime show was 95% commercials. The broadcast crew was horrible.

    Also, this has been going on for years and years now. The major networks in the US only talks about 2-3 teams every year. It's the Lakers, Warriors and sometimes Heat. And they always only talk about 2 players. LeBron and Steph. Even when they're bad that's all they talk about. The Lakers and the Warriors.

    What's happening right now is when there's no LeBron or Steph in the Finals, fans are just not invested in the product. And there's no one else to blame here but the NBA and their media partners.



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