Poeltl & Pascal - The 2016 Draft

[Just Is]

You go with BPA. If you have two players available both at the same tier (in terms of Best Available Talent), then you can use other filters like position.

[draps]

I think you can only take bpa to a point when it's these young guys. How many of these flame outs would have become something if they were put in a lineup with 4 veteran starters who know how to win, and could make the transition very simple for them.

[raptors999]

I think you can only take bpa to a point when it's these young guys. How many of these flame outs would have become something if they were put in a lineup with 4 veteran starters who know how to win, and could make the transition very simple for them.

Take the BPA or trade the pick for a proven player. I'm not sure if drafting for need works considering the success rate of drafted players.

[Cody73]

You with BPA to one extent: If there's a real need at another postion, then you take BPA at that position.


I mean.... Marray's awesome, but if a Just-as-good PF is there, why not take him?

[Letter N]

You with BPA to one extent: If there's a real need at another postion, then you take BPA at that position.


I mean.... Marray's awesome, but if a Just-as-good PF is there, why not take him?

That was the thinking behind Sam Bowie, Olawokandi, Arujoa and many, many other draft night mistakes.

[raptors999]

That was the thinking behind Sam Bowie, Olawokandi, Arujoa and many, many other draft night mistakes.

Only issue is sometime need makes someone look like a similar BPA when they really aren't. Raptors might have been better off taking Portis over Wright but the need for PG moved Wright up a couple spots when a big with some range is a better pick

[Bendit]

Only issue is sometime need makes someone look like a similar BPA when they really aren't. Raptors might have been better off taking Portis over Wright but the need for PG moved Wright up a couple spots when a big with some range is a better pick

And then there was TRoss instead of Drummond. Yes, it was another regime and it was neither BPA nor need with the selection made. It can also be argued that if the rationale was to assign/interchange Ross and Derozan with sg/sf roles this has failed....and the Raptors are minus what would have been a helluva spare asset chip in either JV or Drum. Sleep well BC. No.

[raptors999]

And then there was TRoss instead of Drummond. Yes, it was another regime and it was neither BPA nor need with the selection made. It can also be argued that if the rationale was to assign/interchange Ross and Derozan with sg/sf roles this has failed....and the Raptors are minus what would have been a helluva spare asset chip in either JV or Drum. Sleep well BC. No.

I think the rationale was that adding a SG made more sense than taking another big a year after JV. Not sure if trying to fill a need ever works out since draft pick take at least a couple years to be productive. Would like a counter example if anyone has one

[CalgaryRapsFan]

And then there was TRoss instead of Drummond. Yes, it was another regime and it was neither BPA nor need with the selection made. It can also be argued that if the rationale was to assign/interchange Ross and Derozan with sg/sf roles this has failed....and the Raptors are minus what would have been a helluva spare asset chip in either JV or Drum. Sleep well BC. No.

I think the rationale was that adding a SG made more sense than taking another big a year after JV. Not sure if trying to fill a need ever works out since draft pick take at least a couple years to be productive. Would like a counter example if anyone has one

BC has come out and said that the biggest factor was that they questioned Drummond's commitment and motivation. I believe that BC has outright acknowledged that Drummond was the BPA in terms of skill level, but that other things factor into the determination of BPA in terms of overall player/person.


Beyond that, I think that at times GMs, scouts and talent evaluators just outsmart themselves. They watch a kid play throughout high-school and NCAA, then as it gets closer to the draft, they get enamored with things like size/height, athleticism and measurements. I'm not saying to ignore those kinds of things but, at the end of the day, I want the BPA who can flat out ball (ie: not Hasheem Thabeet).

[draps]

I think they saw Ross' as a lights out shooter, who would be able to get the the rim and finish when people played him too tight, due to the added floor space in the nba. Along with the athletic ability to be a good defender at multiple positions.
Unfortunately only the shooting has translated thus far, but we've all seen the flashes of play that make it understandable how we were fooled into grabbing him so early.

[Dwane Casey]

And then there was TRoss instead of Drummond. Yes, it was another regime and it was neither BPA nor need with the selection made. It can also be argued that if the rationale was to assign/interchange Ross and Derozan with sg/sf roles this has failed....and the Raptors are minus what would have been a helluva spare asset chip in either JV or Drum. Sleep well BC. No.

That one was my bad. I hope you guys will forgive me. In the meantime, can I show you my championship ring?

[Shantz]

Perhaps I missed this, but has Carmelo Anthony been medically cleared as of yet? I've tried to find anything confirming he has, but simply couldn't. If my memory (and quick research) is correct, Melo likely hasn't been able to do much this summer in regards to basketball related activities.

Much of the relative hope that some people have for the Knicks this season is a healthy Melo. Meanwhile, is it possible he won't be ready for training camp? The start of the season?

If Melo goes down then the Knicks are in even deeper trouble this season. Their wing depth isn't great, and they are short on proven scorers.

Granted, plenty of time before training camp and regular season action, but I would have assumed that we would have at least heard when he could be back.

Most up to date information I cold find is that Melo said he hopes he is ready for training camp. This was from April.

[raptors999]

Perhaps I missed this, but has Carmelo Anthony been medically cleared as of yet? I've tried to find anything confirming he has, but simply couldn't. If my memory (and quick research) is correct, Melo likely hasn't been able to do much this summer in regards to basketball related activities.

Much of the relative hope that some people have for the Knicks this season is a healthy Melo. Meanwhile, is it possible he won't be ready for training camp? The start of the season?

If Melo goes down then the Knicks are in even deeper trouble this season. Their wing depth isn't great, and they are short on proven scorers.

Granted, plenty of time before training camp and regular season action, but I would have assumed that we would have at least heard when he could be back.

Most up to date information I cold find is that Melo said he hopes he is ready for training camp. This was from April.

Most recent info is Melo wants out of NY

[Day One]

Most recent info is Melo wants out of NY

it would be in New York's best interest to trade him back to Denver at what could possible be a steal of a deal, although it is Melo so not sure if Denver would even want him lol

[stretch]

The summer of Melo:

Pornstar threatens Carmelo Anthony with alleged sex tape

Dealing with wife's alleged infidelity

Responding to instagram trolls

Melo's still working on his jab step.