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Do We Deserve Better? Should the MLSE Just Forget About the Luxury Tax?
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verbatim wrote: View PostOnly two scenarios work for me:
1) Go into the tax. Sign anyone and everyone we can in order to get better - the Boston route.
2) Shed salary and build through the draft. Put out entertaining young teams high on development. Go into the tax only when a solid young core is in place - the Portland route.
No more of this in-between garbage.
surround them with young guys that have good work ethic which we already have.
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verbatim wrote: View Posti would like to know if most people on RR are averse to the idea of being crappy for 2-3 years and building through the draft. At least the Raptors would be able to put out a young and developing team, and play to Triano's strength in player development.
I don't know if that would work though, given the Raps have contracts on their books like Hedo, Calderon and Bargnani that are fairly long term.
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Go over the tax to continue the mediocrity??? YOu gotta be KIDDING ME!!!!
Don't encourage BC to keep loading this team with more mediocre players when he wasted $25+ Million on average talent with sub-par athleticism.
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Well if we talking about three years, Calderon's deal expires in three year and the following year Hedo would be in the final season on his contract. I think the Raptors are going to be stuck like the Hornets were with Peja. A player past his prime, make money he couldn't land in his prime and with no market to sell him to.
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i would like to know if most people on RR are averse to the idea of being crappy for 2-3 years and building through the draft. At least the Raptors would be able to put out a young and developing team, and play to Triano's strength in player development.
I don't know if that would work though, given the Raps have contracts on their books like Hedo, Calderon and Bargnani that are fairly long term.
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insight_tor wrote: View PostSo far, the signing of Hedo and trade for Jermaine O'Neal was totally failure, few more moves like this and Raptors may go in luxury tax with a shitty team.
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Contenders
Raptors is not near close to the contenders, therefore I would say at this time is less likely you would go into luxury tax. It has to be a huge change, like Boston when they landed Garnett and Ray Allen. but also kept Pierce and Rondo.
So far, the signing of Hedo and trade for Jermaine O'Neal was totally failure, few more moves like this and Raptors may go in luxury tax with a shitty team.
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I don't think Hedo Turkoglu's contract is that large of an issue. One bad $10 million deal won't stop you from fielding a top team.
You would rather not have it there ... but at the end of the day, it won't kill you.
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Doc Naismith wrote: View PostRegardless of what moves are or aren't done this summer Apollo, if moves can be made where we can rid ourselves of Jose, Hedo or Andrea and we improve even it means we exceed our cap and into luxury tax, do you not think its time to at least consider it if your the MLSE? Because if not, we as fans have to prepare ourselves for an extended period of time of sub .500 basketball and even more frustrating times in Raptorland.
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I simply don't understand this belief that the MLSE is cheap. They've NEVER, EVER shown that. Good franchises simply do not go into the tax unless it makes them a contender. The Raptors have never had that chance. You can't simply spend your way to contending. It doesn't work that way. Nearly every single contender did not go over the luxury tax until they needed to make that next step. Cleveland, Orlando, Dallas, San Antonio and possibly the Lakers (I can't remember) all were under the tax until they needed to take that next step.
This whole tax issue is yet another excuse Raptor fans can use to whine about something.
The Raptors have never had enough talent to warrant going above the tax threshold. This summer, I could see it ONLY if it means constructing the team differently. I think they've got enough talent to be a very good team, it's just that it doesn't work together. I think Colangelo has enough pieces to be able to deal for a contender. It would be a risky move, since they certainly aren't a contender now, but I don' think Colangelo has had enough pieces until now.
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The Raptors have two good choices:
(1) Do not spend the luxury tax
(2) Go above the luxury tax threshold temporarily with the understanding that Reggie + Banks + Belinelli are coming off the books next offseason and with the understanding that they need to dump other large contracts (Bargs, Hedo, Jose, Jack) over the next 12 months to create cap space in order to sign a star player sometime in the future.
And one idiotic choice
(3) keep spending around this core with no chance of becoming a contender
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Gosh no -- It would be idiotic for the Raptors to spend their way into the luxury tax while planning to be there for the foreseeable future.
It would create a New York Knicks under Isiah Thomas type situation. The Raptors need to create opportunities to add high quality talent, not average talent (MLE), star talent. They do not have trade assets so they cannot do it that way + if they spend money they will not have any cap space in the future (no free agency) + their squad will be above .500 and have no high draft picks.
No high draft picks + no cap space + no trade assets = a Raptors team that makes the playoffs year after year with no chance of advancement and is mired in a long term financial nightmare.
Isiah's Knicks ... to repeat, it is absolutely idiotic for the Raptors to walk down this road. It's worse than letting Bosh leave. The Raptors have a much better chance of building a winning basketball team if Bosh leaves.
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Only two scenarios work for me:
1) Go into the tax. Sign anyone and everyone we can in order to get better - the Boston route.
2) Shed salary and build through the draft. Put out entertaining young teams high on development. Go into the tax only when a solid young core is in place - the Portland route.
No more of this in-between garbage.
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Regardless of what moves are or aren't done this summer Apollo, if moves can be made where we can rid ourselves of Jose, Hedo or Andrea and we improve even it means we exceed our cap and into luxury tax, do you not think its time to at least consider it if your the MLSE? Because if not, we as fans have to prepare ourselves for an extended period of time of sub .500 basketball and even more frustrating times in Raptorland.
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