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Game #79: Toronto Raptors 92 - Indiana Pacers 73
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octothorp wrote: View PostWhat I disagree with isn't saying that there's a mental component to it. I accept that, I fully believe that there's a major mental component to winning. What I disagree with is the idea that the mental side of it isn't something that you can work on and improve upon. Just being in those situations repeatedly makes you better at them, and being able to rise to the occasion is something very few pro athletes can do at an elite level in their first opportunities.
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Nilanka wrote: View PostI think we can all agree with that. The Raptors will be viewed as "playoff chokers" until they break through LeBron9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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octothorp wrote: View PostSee, I think golf is a terrible analogy for the point he's trying to make. Golf is full of guys who didn't have 'it', until suddenly they put together a great weekend at a major and then it turns out they actually did have 'it'. Sergio Garcia, for a recent example. The reality is that if you're good enough to win a lot of tour tournaments and constantly be in the mix in the majors, then eventually you're likely going to win a major. This is more about the backward-looking way that we craft sports narratives than about some truth of winning.
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golden wrote: View PostInteresting stat. 6 of the 8 teams in the East are hovering slightly above or below break-even against > .500 teams. Doesn't seem to highlight us as clear cut playoff favorites, like Houston and GSW are out west, even though we're roughly in the same net rating range for the season.
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So by the illustration below, the Raps (23-20), Cavs (21-22) and Celtics (25-20) ALL are less than impressive against .500 or better teams. I kept hearing from the talking heads how bad the Rpas record was against good teams and they had just padded the overall record against bad teams. Not once did they note that Cleveland is BELOW .500 against good teams. I had to look at that twice....
Contrast that against the Rockets (36-11) and the GSW (30-16, even with major injuries over the season) against .500 or better teams and you can really see how they have been the class of the NBA.
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Bendit wrote: View PostJust noticed...Kyrie Irving out for the season...another knee surgery.
Dirk Nowitzki also done for the season although obviously less important for the post season situation
Man, if I were him, I'd retire and count my millions .....
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Don't they rank a team as .500 or better at the time you play them?
So if it's the second game of the season and you are facing the 76ers who just lost to the Celtics and Wizards.. then Philly would technically be less than .500 at that time. And if you beat the 76ers it wouldn't count in that vs .500 and above calculation.
That stat then becomes about the schedule and is misleading.
Wouldn't the better stat be to see how well you did against playoff teams? And compile that stat at the end of the year?
Raptors are currently 13-10 against the East, and 9-7 against the West (assuming the season ends with Minny and NO in the playoffs). That's 22-17 overall.. with games left against Indiana and Miami. That looks better than 23-20
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planetmars wrote: View PostDon't they rank a team as .500 or better at the time you play them?
So if it's the second game of the season and you are facing the 76ers who just lost to the Celtics and Wizards.. then Philly would technically be less than .500 at that time. And if you beat the 76ers it wouldn't count in that vs .500 and above calculation.
That stat then becomes about the schedule and is misleading.
Wouldn't the better stat be to see how well you did against playoff teams? And compile that stat at the end of the year?
Raptors are currently 13-10 against the East, and 9-7 against the West (assuming the season ends with Minny and NO in the playoffs). That's 22-17 overall.. with games left against Indiana and Miami. That looks better than 23-20
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