I hope Marc plays this game, wanna see what this center rotation can do.
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planetmars wrote: View PostWhat if... �� pic.twitter.com/J3yFzqbAoe
— theScore (@theScore) February 9, 2019
Never knew this.. wow
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inthepaint wrote: View PostMonroe had to do a lot with the overall team struggles, because he was much worse as a backup C then JV or Serge (depending on who would be the backup or starter on that day). That's why we missed JV so much while he was hurt, because whether JV was a starter or not, with him being hurt meant Monroe had to play a lot. The whole team struggled, particularly the starting unit, because we had 2 of our best players (Lowry and JV, who was a starter for several games) be out with injuries, and in Lowry's case, even when he got back his shot wasn't the same.
Serge did his best to hold the fort a C, and played great games even on losses. The main reason the starters struggled was Lowry recovering from injury, both him and Kawhi being out of the lineup, and not having the luxury to start JV on games we would have. In simple terms, injuries is why we struggled. Not that you're saying that, but Serge had little to do with the starters struggles.
All I'm saying is instead of having Serge & Monroe as your centres (while JV was hurt), we'll now see have Gasol & Serge, which is of course much better, so we should see some improvement overall by the team.
And the only reason I brought up any of it is because there was a point made by Lowe that the Raptors were SO GOOD with Ibaka starting at C that he questions whether they will start Gasol. Which is nuts, because Serge has been fine at C but the starters have not actually been that good as a unit in ages, so we should not hesitate at all to change that up.
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DanH wrote: View PostDude, I'm literally only talking about how successful the 5-some of Lowry-Green-Kawhi-Siakam-Serge has been. The only point you are making here that has anything to do with that is Lowry's shooting.
And the only reason I brought up any of it is because there was a point made by Lowe that the Raptors were SO GOOD with Ibaka starting at C that he questions whether they will start Gasol. Which is nuts, because Serge has been fine at C but the starters have not actually been that good as a unit in ages, so we should not hesitate at all to change that up.
Do you believe that the main reason for the starters struggles are injuries? (and all the stuff that's indirectly related to the injuries, like less than ideal chemistry because of guys in-and-out of the lineup, Lowry shot being flat with the bad back etc.)
If your answer is yes, we're in agreement, and I think also in line with what players and coaches think the main challenge has been this year.
If you're answer is no, or something on the lines of "injuries are a part of it, but not the main issue", and the main issue is that Siakam should be coming off the bench, or Ibaka is not a good fit with the starters or OG should start, or some other reason, then we'll have to agree to disagree.
To me the Lowry-Green-Kawhi-Siakam-Ibaka/JV wasn't perfect, but it consisted of our 5 best players, and therefore the right starting lineup (Not that you saying it shouldn't be). They've done well carrying the team to over .710 ball to date, and if they weren't plagued by injuries they would have done even better. I also think they would do even better with an injury-free Marc Gasol as well, I think he'll be really motivated for deep playoff push.
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inthepaint wrote: View PostHey man, I don't think we're disagreeing on this one. You start your best players, and if Gasol is one of them, then he'll start at C. No argument there. But let me pose a question just to be sure, since you're alluding to the starters struggles:
Do you believe that the main reason for the starters struggles are injuries? (and all the stuff that's indirectly related to the injuries, like less than ideal chemistry because of guys in-and-out of the lineup, Lowry shot being flat with the bad back etc.)
If your answer is yes, we're in agreement, and I think also in line with what players and coaches think the main challenge has been this year.
If you're answer is no, or something on the lines of "injuries are a part of it, but not the main issue", and the main issue is that Siakam should be coming off the bench, or Ibaka is not a good fit with the starters or OG should start, or some other reason, then we'll have to agree to disagree.
To me the Lowry-Green-Kawhi-Siakam-Ibaka/JV wasn't perfect, but it consisted of our 5 best players, and therefore the right starting lineup (Not that you saying it shouldn't be). They've done well carrying the team to over .710 ball to date, and if they weren't plagued by injuries they would have done even better. I also think they would do even better with an injury-free Marc Gasol as well, I think he'll be really motivated for deep playoff push.
And lumping in JV with the starters is the problem here. He's not here anymore to provide those dominant starter minutes that boosted the other starters. The topic at hand was "Ibaka with the starters has been amazing so how do you justify starting Gasol" - and the answer is that the starters have not been amazing with Ibaka in quite some time, and even when he was (early in the season before all the injuries) the starters were dramatically better with JV. So if Gasol is supposed to be the new upgraded version of JV there is no reason to hesitate pushing Ibaka to the bench or PF to get Gasol into those C minutes with the starters.
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