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According to MSNBC the Raptors Are "Very Interested" in Barbosa
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Hassan wrote: View Posthow's his defence?
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DonCarlos wrote: View PostBarbosa CAN play backup PG, especially with someone like Turk on the floor. What I'm saying is that if we can somehow turn Calderon into Barbosa, it should be done, if only for the durations of the contracts involved. While Calderon > Barbosa, paying Barbosa for 2 years > paying Calderon for 4.
1. Does trading for Barbosa give the Raptors the starting PG that everyone wants?
2. Does trading for Barbosa help the Raptors long term?
3. Is trading for Barbosa a good step towards making the Raptors a contender in the short term?
No, no and no. In other words, there's no real point.
Barbosa is another bandaid that would help make the Raptors compete a little more, but wouldn't give the Raptors anything they actually NEED. He's a guy that would look good to season ticketholders who simply want entertaining and fairly competitive games. I'm not interested in the Raptors striving for mediocrity. Maybe you guys are.Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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Tim W. wrote: View PostBarbosa is another bandaid that would help make the Raptors compete a little more, but wouldn't give the Raptors anything they actually NEED. He's a guy that would look good to season ticketholders who simply want entertaining and fairly competitive games.
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Tim W. wrote: View PostI have three questions.
1. Does trading for Barbosa give the Raptors the starting PG that everyone wants?
2. Does trading for Barbosa help the Raptors long term?
3. Is trading for Barbosa a good step towards making the Raptors a contender in the short term?
No, no and no. In other words, there's no real point.
Barbosa is another bandaid that would help make the Raptors compete a little more, but wouldn't give the Raptors anything they actually NEED. He's a guy that would look good to season ticketholders who simply want entertaining and fairly competitive games. I'm not interested in the Raptors striving for mediocrity. Maybe you guys are.Avatar: Riverboat Coffee House 134 Yorkville Ave. billboard of upcoming entertainers - Circa 1960s
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yeah i definately dont want barbosa.. enough with the combo guard garbage barbosa looks great in transition and has a pretty good shot but hes a ball hog who prefers to run the court himself. As well shouldnt BC be looking to dump our overpaid overrated players for cap relief I dont want to hear any rumours about us acquiring players only where the eff turkoglu and calderon are going..
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TRX wrote: View PostWhy the hell would the Suns want any of the Raptors' backup guards if they don't have minutes anymore for their former sixth man?
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Banks can be a spark. I have seen him up close enough to know what he is about. He can drive, but he cannot create, nor can he shoot consistently.
On defense, he is aggressive to a fault. Gets caught out of position, and had issues playing within the system.
With a little more Basketball IQ, he could do damage.
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Tim W. wrote: View PostBarbosa's not a PG. Why do you guys always want to jump on these undersized shooting guards? It boggles my mind. Yes, he's quick, yes, he can score. But he's not a PG. You don't want him starting, and last time I checked, the Raptors are fine at backup PG.
Enough with these half-assed "solutions" that don't actually solve any problems. Just because a guy is available doesn't mean the Raptors should suddenly look at him.
Someone should find out if Alvin Williams knees are any betterLast edited by grindhouse; Sun Jul 4, 2010, 10:54 PM.
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The Raptors don't need him but if he's the best player they can get in a trade by a significant margin then sign me up. In a rebuild you need to stockpile talent. You can later use that talent to fill holes when you're ready to seriously compete.
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Apollo wrote: View PostThe Raptors don't need him but if he's the best player they can get in a trade by a significant margin then sign me up. In a rebuild you need to stockpile talent. You can later use that talent to fill holes when you're ready to seriously compete.ya dun noe
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Only real value in getting Barbosa is that he is a better trade asset than Evans or Banks. Maybe even as early as the next trade deadline.
That said - Evans & Banks for Barbosa + Clark(*) is a bad trade for the Raps imo. Two expiring contracts is a lot to give up for a marginal improvement.
(*) no way Phoenix gives us Dudley
Which is to say that decent trades (imo) would include:
Evans & Banks FOR Barbosa & Dudley
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Evans & Bellinelli FOR Barbosa & lottery protected pick
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I don't see how Barbosa can play with Hedo in the same time, both needs the ball in hands to be effective. If we trade Hedo for Barboasa, then I would do it just to get rid of Hedo . I don't believe Barbosa will improve Raptors at all, is going to be just an band aid solution at most, the worst can happen is to have Barbosa eating minutes that Young Gunz may have. But we need to get rid of one of 3 PG as well.
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