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Should the Raptors Take a Bite at Anthony Randolph?
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Apollo wrote: View PostNNF is doing most of the Randolph defense in here and he's debating if he's worth the Raptors' soon to be lotto pick... No question he's worth the Miami pick in my opinion.It's about money
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philwill wrote: View PostApollo wrote: View PostNNF is doing most of the Randolph defense in here and he's debating if he's worth the Raptors' soon to be lotto pick... No question he's worth the Miami pick in my opinion.
Nine New Faces wrote: View PostTake that deal. All day, every day.
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For the Miami selection, I'd make that deal in a heartbeat. When you get down towards the mid-late 20's, you're looking at either long term, stashaway european project or a college senior. It's a crapshoot either way, and I'd be willing to go out on a limb and say that Randolph might have more talent than anyone available at that Miami selection.
He's 21, can play all 3 front court position and oozes talent. He's not as good of a ball handler as Odom, but he's got lenth, is explosive and can fill it up offensively (not a very good long distance shooter though). On defense, he's pretty lacking, he's pretty frail, although he can block shots and has pretty good rebounding skills. As a flyer, I'd do it.Last edited by MangoKid; Tue Dec 14, 2010, 11:48 AM.
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LBF wrote: View Postcompletely ignoring randolph and his ability.
why the hell would you want to add at least another 10 years to the raptors ever having a chance to compete for a championship or even playoffs?
the knciks are already rolling with amare and felton and you want to trade for some piece of shit player to help the knicks get CARMELO FUCKING ANTHONY!!!!!!!!!!
you sure you're a raptors fan?
We might as well get in on the thing and help ourselves in the process.
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ebrian wrote: View PostThe answer is absolutely unequivocally yes. Anthony Randolph himself was a 14th rounder, and although he hasn't played or hasn't been given the opportunity, he's certainly worth more than Miami's pick, which will most certainly end up being a late 20s pick.
We have a shit team. And on shit teams, players get more chances than anywhere else. I'd trade the Miami pick for Randolph in a heartbeat, let him play his heart out for the rest of this season and next. There is a very small chance we end up drafting someone better than Randolph with the 27th or 28th overall pick, and I'll take those odds every day."the raptors were my fav team growing up"-kevin durant
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Apollo wrote: View PostHe said it very clearly
As for the idea that Miami's pick is all it would take to get Randolph, dream on. It'd take the Knicks all of 20 minutes to find a team willing to give up more than that.
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I haven't actually read all the responses on this so i'll apologize if I double dip on some opinions. Randolph has been pegged as a breakout star for two seasons and was on his way last year until injuries derailed his promise. Now he is stuck on the knicks bench and D'antoni's doghouse who is famous for burying guys without much reason or rationale. I'm especially miffed at the benching considering the lack of quality bigs the knicks have on thier roster. They are winning as of now so its hard to argue too much with what he's doing. Personally I am a huge Randolph homer and think the raps would be the perfect fit for him, but he would be playing backup center, not SF as some suggested.
For those who suggested the raps shouldn't help the knicks get better, understand that Melo is likely the most overrated player in the league and really won't bring much to a knicks team that already scores efficiently.
The only real issue is whether or not the raptors would be able to harness the potential that Randolph possesses as the guy clearly has motivation problems and has now became a clubhouse cancer on two squads before he is even legally allowed to drink. I think a lot of the problems can be attributed to maturity, but also clubhouse chemistry and coaching play a major role. I believe he would fit in well on the young gunz mantra that focuses on hard work and positive chemistry in the clubhouse and Triano for all his faults has been uniquely talented towards developing young journeymen into serviceable NBA player's.
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Totally a risk worth taking. Nellie is Nellie, and come on, how do people not know D'antoni is infamous for keeping a SUPER-tight rotation. Randolph, regardless of his apparent shortcomings, is young as hell and is fully-talented. And like somebody said in this thread, we're a pretty crappy team no matter which way you look at it - he could totally excel here given the chance. He's like Michael Beasley (talent that should've already flourished), but hopefully without the messed up problems.
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Apollo wrote: View PostHe said it very clearly:
Now he's just being dogmatic.
I stand by trading Miami's pick for him. I don't stand by NNF's zeal for throwing a top-five pick for him. Something better is out there, for certain.It's about money
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philwill wrote: View PostI don't stand by NNF's zeal for throwing a top-five pick for him.
The top 5 is almost guaranteed to hold the Wiz, the Clips, the Kings, the Wolves and the Nets. After that, I easily see the Cavs, Pistons, Warriors, Cats, and 76ers to be right around the Raps' record, and likely ahead of them in the lottery. If the lottery started today, they'd be picking 9th, which is right around what I'd expect.
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