Players 23 and under - Rank DD, Amir, and Bayless

[Legalize-It]

I will "bite" when you put groups of 3 together that are under 23 and from the same team...
i.e. - Mayo, Conley, Thabeet
Or a whole starting 5 - Bayless, Derozan, Wright, Davis, Johnson (Alabi)
i.e. - Conley, Vasquez, Mayo, Arthur, Thabeet

but they already have a legit C in gasol and a legit SF in Rudy

[JoePanini]

I definitely think these three players can improve drastically. DeRozan really needs to work on his jumper, and needs to focus more on offense and defense. Many times it was like he wasn't on the floor. But he's young, and extremely athletic so there is a lot of room for improvement. It's the same thing with Bayless and Johnson, both also young and athletic. They all need to mature, and play smarter and harder, which also goes for all the team members.
But at the moment, and very probably for the rest of their career, they will only be at the bottom of this group, or maybe reach near the middle. There are a lot of potential all-stars in that group.

[Legalize-It]

Ok I will bite.

If we are comparing players, we also have to compare positions in mind.

Demar Derozan has potential to be better then OJ Mayo, because it seems to me that as of right now OJ Mayo has hit some wall in his development. If Demar wants to be successful in the league he has to work his butt in the gym to be bigger, work on his ball handling skills, and especially his shot.

Bayless can be better then Mike Connely and I believe he can reach that level.

I would put Johnson ahead of Ibeka at this stage since I haven't seen much of Ibeka but I assume he doesn't have the quickness, defence and doesnt shoot the ball as good as Johnson who currently is improving on all those aspects of his game.

Johnson is the closest thing to a finished product and therefore he won't be a star in this league. As for Demar and Bayless if they continue to improve and get the minutes (working through their problems) by mid season of next year we will know exactly what we have in them.

you make a lot of really good points. i really have to agree with you...

bayless definitely has shown signs of really being a great player.

amir is solid... reliable. showing improvement on both sides of the court.

DD - dunks are unreal... i really think he has the work ethic to improve the shot and handles... he's also got to get a bit bigger...

i kind of wish all 3 of these players would play together more, even if it means not starting, just cuz it looks like they will become the core of the future.

what do you think ?

[BC Boy]

I will "bite" when you put groups of 3 together that are under 23 and from the same team...
i.e. - Mayo, Conley, Thabeet
Or a whole starting 5 - Bayless, Derozan, Wright, Davis, Johnson (Alabi)
i.e. - Conley, Vasquez, Mayo, Arthur, Thabeet

[Hotshot]

Ok I will bite.

If we are comparing players, we also have to compare positions in mind.

Demar Derozan has potential to be better then OJ Mayo, because it seems to me that as of right now OJ Mayo has hit some wall in his development. If Demar wants to be successful in the league he has to work his butt in the gym to be bigger, work on his ball handling skills, and especially his shot.

Bayless can be better then Mike Connely and I believe he can reach that level.

I would put Johnson ahead of Ibeka at this stage since I haven't seen much of Ibeka but I assume he doesn't have the quickness, defence and doesnt shoot the ball as good as Johnson who currently is improving on all those aspects of his game.

Johnson is the closest thing to a finished product and therefore he won't be a star in this league. As for Demar and Bayless if they continue to improve and get the minutes (working through their problems) by mid season of next year we will know exactly what we have in them.

[MangoKid]

haha why do you have such a low opinion of DD, amir, and bayless ?

what they cant compete with these players even though they are the same age ?

I don't have a low opinion of Derozan, Amir and Bayless. The reality is that out of the 3 guys, i think Bayless has the potential to become the best out of the group. Derozan in my opinion, won't become a superstar. He'll be a good player though. Amir will be a solid big off of the bench, much like a Jerome Williams. The guys you listed above, for the majority were top-5 picks in their respective drafts. There's a reason why they were drafted where they were - because they have more talent.

My question now is... what's your point in making this thread?

[Legalize-It]

So your job was to come on here and be a troll? This thread isn't going to go anywhere and it's going to be downhill very fast. All you're doing is inciting the true Raptors fans on here. If there are any mods on here, I would encourage them to lock it before it gets out of hand.

haha why do you have such a low opinion of DD, amir, and bayless ?

what they cant compete with these players even though they are the same age ?

[MangoKid]

So your job was to come on here and be a troll? This thread isn't going to go anywhere and it's going to be downhill very fast. All you're doing is inciting the true Raptors fans on here. If there are any mods on here, I would encourage them to lock it before it gets out of hand.

[Legalize-It]

Where do you rank Demar, Amir, and Bayless among the following players aged 23 and under ?

d rose - 22
curry - 22
gordon - 22
griffin - 21
m conley - 23
mayo - 23
jennings - 21
love - 22
w chandler - 23
b lopez - 22
westbrook - 22
durant - 22
ibaka - 21
tyreke evans - 21
j wall - 20

derozan - 22
bayless - 22
amir johnson - 23