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Raptors Climbing The Inverted Standings
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Stahmenah_Vybz wrote: View PostWow, looking like our chances of getting top pick just got better with the Washington & Kings winning. can't wait for the Draft to see who will actually be available. What do we need more a Point Guard or a Center?
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I say either draft Irving or Barnes. I like both of them. The thing I see with Irving though is that if you draft him, you can then use Calderon as trade bait to get another piece like a defensive centre or a small forward. If you draft Barnes, then you're stuck with Jose. One of our weakest points is perimeter defence. Irving would address this issue. Barnes would too but you'd still be left with Jose trying to stop penetration into the D. That's why I would lean towards taking Irving over Barnes but both of these young fellows will be good to very good players in the NBA. We have to now hope the Raps lose the rest of their games and the Wizards, Nets, and Kings keeping winning a few more. Schedule wise, I think we have a tougher schedule than the other teams. 5 games left: 2 against playoff teams (Miami, Philly), 1 against a team still in the hunt (Bucks) and 2 against non-playoff teams (Nets and Cavs). I actually would not be surprised to see them lose to Cleveland tonight. The Cavs have played much better of late and the Raps have a tendency to play up to the good teams and down to the bad teams.
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Stahmenah_Vybz wrote: View PostWow, looking like our chances of getting top pick just got better with the Washington & Kings winning. can't wait for the Draft to see who will actually be available. What do we need more a Point Guard or a Center?
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goldenboy78 wrote: View PostHow about a shooting foward like Harrison, he is the man the raptors must get, if not Harrison then Perry Jones, althrough some people have him listed as a power foward(ESPN) while others have him listed at a shooting foward.(Draft Express).Twitter @WJ_FINDLAY
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If they end up selecting third there should be safe, just as talented options on the board. If people haven't enjoyed waiting on Bargnani to mature and going through the growing pains with him then they're not going to be happy with Perry Jones. Not to mention the questions about his drive. I was really open to Jones before the seasons started but not now with all the new info.
Moving back on topic, everyone should start cheering for Cleveland to turn this one game win streak into a six game win streak.
How the heck does Minnesota get so high in the inverted standings building around someone like Kevin Love?
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Wiz To Combat Raps Using A Classic Off-Court Tactic Most Commonly Know As "Tanking"
"Not on my watch Craptors!"
Wizards coach Flip Saunders announced Tuesday that leading scorer Nick Young, forward Josh Howard, forward Rashard Lewis, guard Cartier Martin and center Hamidy N'Diaye are all done for the season, each of them nursing knee injuries.
Forward Trevor Booker was ruled out last week with a broken right foot.
"We got six guys that are done, and we are playing with nine," Saunders said . "So we are undermanned, but our guys have been competing. That's one of the reasons we have been able to win a few in a row."
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Apollo wrote: View PostIf people haven't enjoyed waiting on Bargnani to mature and going through the growing pains with him then they're not going to be happy with Perry Jones.
Although I do agree on your apprehension with Perry Jones.Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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No, every player that hasn't had instant impact has been tossed under the bus. I'm basing this on the ten or so years I've been posting on Raptors forums. It's not just Bargnani. Hoffa got crucified. People had little patients in Joey G. People were unjustly hard on DeRozan last season and again this season he's been grilled in here by multiple posters. It's ordinary for Raptors fans, Tim. Some of them turn out to be justified but the timing of the ones they get right on is still wrong. Players need two, three and sometimes four years before you know which way they're going to go. It's why I've never been behind trading Bargnani until this season. The writing is on the wall now. Perry Jones is the kind of player who's going to probably need three or four years to get an accurate read on. This mixes with Raptors fans like oil with water. It is, how it is.
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Apollo wrote: View PostNo, every player that hasn't had instant impact has been tossed under the bus. I'm basing this on the ten or so years I've been posting on Raptors forums. It's not just Bargnani. Hoffa got crucified. People had little patients in Joey G. People were unjustly hard on DeRozan last season and again this season he's been grilled in here by multiple posters. It's ordinary for Raptors fans, Tim. Some of them turn out to be justified but the timing of the ones they get right on is still wrong. Players need two, three and sometimes four years before you know which way they're going to go. It's why I've never been behind trading Bargnani until this season. The writing is on the wall now. Perry Jones is the kind of player who's going to probably need three or four years to get an accurate read on. This mixes with Raptors fans like oil with water. It is, how it is.Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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Joey Graham was projected by most to go in the top ten that year. I remember this clearly because Steven A. Smith on air gave commentary generally criticizing Babcock for getting the picks backwards. He suggested that Charlie V should have been the second pick and Joey should have been the first pick. And there was no way to tell that Joey wasn't going to get better. He was billed as a strong defender in college and had out of this world athleticism. His shot wasn't bad and his penetrating ability was excellent when he picked the right time to attack. He had all the physical tools, with the exception of IQ, to be a very good player.
We have been patient with Davis because he's delivering right out of the gate. The fans have been split on DeMar for the second part of this year but if you go back to threads from last year and before January 2011 you'll see a different tone at times... In particular after bad games. As such I still strongly disagree.
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Apollo wrote: View PostJoey Graham was projected by most to go in the top ten that year. I remember this clearly because Steven A. Smith on air gave commentary generally criticizing Babcock for getting the picks backwards. He suggested that Charlie V should have been the second pick and Joey should have been the first pick. And there was no way to tell that Joey wasn't going to get better. He was billed as a strong defender in college and had out of this world athleticism. His shot wasn't bad and his penetrating ability was excellent when he picked the right time to attack. He had all the physical tools, with the exception of IQ, to be a very good player.
We have been patient with Davis because he's delivering right out of the gate. The fans have been split on DeMar for the second part of this year but if you go back to threads from last year and before January 2011 you'll see a different tone at times... In particular after bad games. As such I still strongly disagree.
And I think what fans want to see is SOMETHING in a young player they can have hope for. The fact that Graham is barely in the NBA and Araujo didn't last 5 years tells me maybe the fans were right about them.
As I said, I think the forum is probably not the best place to find a consensus among fans. In reality, you've only got a couple of dozen people on here. And they are generally the most vocal.Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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