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Matt52 wrote: View PostFrom HoopsHype.com
I disagree with Calderon. The Raps are actually ahead of OKC in terms of rebuilding through the draft. OKC used their draft picks for Petro and Sene in the two years leading up to their first of 3 years in the top 5 with picks 2, 5, 4, and 3 (2007-2009). The Raptors used those two years to get DeRozan and Davis. Fingers crossed on this draft.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostAgreed and it is a little bothersome. People, in general, make it sound like their success came over night. It was 5 years between playoff appearances and a lot of lottery luck (not trying to take anything away from their scouting people though).
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I think Irving and Williams are the only 2 in this draft with the potential to be big time stars. Kanter, Brandon Knight, and maybe Kemba should become good but not great players in the NBA. After that, not sure if anyone else will amount to much. Keep your fingers crossed on the 17th. Hopefully, we get the #1 pick. If the basketball gods believe in justice, I'm hoping they give the Raptors and the Cavs the top 2 picks after all the stuff both franchises went through with Bosh and LBJ last summer. Speaking of omens, if memory serves me well, the last BC represented the Raptors at the lottery was in 2006. That was the year we got the #1 pick. He's representing us this year again. Will history repeat itself?
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bballnut27 wrote: View Postactually matt has said that numerous times in various threads, no sarcasm there
And to think that a year ago, many people around these parts felt Daequan Cook was a scrub that required a 1st rounder to get the Thunder to accept.
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jd4 wrote: View PostI think Irving and Williams are the only 2 in this draft with the potential to be big time stars. Kanter, Brandon Knight, and maybe Kemba should become good but not great players in the NBA. After that, not sure if anyone else will amount to much. Keep your fingers crossed on the 17th. Hopefully, we get the #1 pick. If the basketball gods believe in justice, I'm hoping they give the Raptors and the Cavs the top 2 picks after all the stuff both franchises went through with Bosh and LBJ last summer. Speaking of omens, if memory serves me well, the last BC represented the Raptors at the lottery was in 2006. That was the year we got the #1 pick. He's representing us this year again. Will history repeat itself?
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I like Kanter more than Lopez simply because his aggressiveness is more of a fit with Davis and Johnson. But no matter who they pick the key is 2012, and I think the Raps will be in lottery or low playoffs to get a good pick. If they can get a second first round in 2012, and not trade it, then things become really interestiing. I think they have to take either Irving or Williams this year if available, but it concerns me that there are few centres available next year. But 2012 should give them depth. Imagine Kanter this year and someone like Barnes or one of the Jones, and Kabongo next year. Ouch...Last edited by meductic; Sat May 14, 2011, 07:05 AM.
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meductic wrote: View PostI like Kanter more than Lopez simply because his aggressiveness is more of a fit with Davis and Johnson. But no matter who they pick the key is 2012, and I think the Raps will be in lottery or low playoffs to get a good pick. If they can get a second first round in 2012, and not trade it, then things become really interestiing. I think they have to take either Irving or Williams if available, but it concerns me that there are few centres available next year. But 2012 should give them depth.
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What's with all this love for Kanter? You really want BC to draft ANOTHER European player? Regardless of his physical play and how he pans out, it's time for BC to break the mold of always looking for Europeans....Derrick Williams would fit the Raps perfectly - who have they been missing since VC bailed? A solid 3 who can take it to the rim and throw down with authority, who has a nice jumper too - I'm hopin the Raps can land D Will - a 6"8 SF is def a piece that can help take the Raptors to the next level -Kyrie would be nice too, but right now leaning a little more towards Williams...fingers are crossed - that tweener talk is garbage - he's NBA ready no doubtYour ex came by; you can call me Jonas Valanciunas, cause I'm the king of rebounds!
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huskies2raps wrote: View PostWhat's with all this love for Kanter? You really want BC to draft ANOTHER European player? Regardless of his physical play and how he pans out, it's time for BC to break the mold of always looking for Europeans....Derrick Williams would fit the Raps perfectly - who have they been missing since VC bailed? A solid 3 who can take it to the rim and throw down with authority, who has a nice jumper too - I'm hopin the Raps can land D Will - a 6"8 SF is def a piece that can help take the Raptors to the next level -Kyrie would be nice too, but right now leaning a little more towards Williams...fingers are crossed - that tweener talk is garbage - he's NBA ready no doubt
Here is a good place to start on his career: http://hoopshype.com/general_manager..._colangelo.htm
Notice some of the people he did draft.
What's all the love for Kanter? Watch some video and read some write ups to find out. He would be a perfect compliment to Davis and Amir.
The tweener talk on Williams is very real. Could you provide a source for the garbage comment?
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huskies2raps wrote: View PostWhat's with all this love for Kanter? You really want BC to draft ANOTHER European player? Regardless of his physical play and how he pans out, it's time for BC to break the mold of always looking for Europeans....Derrick Williams would fit the Raps perfectly - who have they been missing since VC bailed? A solid 3 who can take it to the rim and throw down with authority, who has a nice jumper too - I'm hopin the Raps can land D Will - a 6"8 SF is def a piece that can help take the Raptors to the next level -Kyrie would be nice too, but right now leaning a little more towards Williams...fingers are crossed - that tweener talk is garbage - he's NBA ready no doubtRead my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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Matt52 wrote: View PostI suggest you do a little research on Colangelo's draft record. Break the mold of always looking for Europeans? He has drafted 4 in 16 years of being an NBA GM - 1 of which he traded (Gortat). He has only drafted 1 European in TOR, guess who.
Here is a good place to start on his career: http://hoopshype.com/general_manager..._colangelo.htm
Notice some of the people he did draft.
What's all the love for Kanter? Watch some video and read some write ups to find out. He would be a perfect compliment to Davis and Amir.
The tweener talk on Williams is very real. Could you provide a source for the garbage comment?
ofcourse all of our arguments are meaningless until Tuesday, where we will then see how the ping pong balls fall - I do agree with Matt and Tim's analysis of Kanter, and as a 3rd pick I'd be meh until I saw how he fared in a Raps uni - however, if (and hopefully they do) they get the 1st or 2nd pick, drafting Kanter is out of the question, it will obviously be between Williams and IrvingYour ex came by; you can call me Jonas Valanciunas, cause I'm the king of rebounds!
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