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RaptorDan wrote: View PostI listened to BC's post draft interview, and he said that he is concerned that if Jonas stays in Europe 1 more year that BC might send a coach there to help Jonas develop because BC doesn't think Jonas has enough support over there to develop properly . BC said that if Jonas got the buyout and came to Toronto Jonas could reach his full potential quicker because of the Raps resources. BC also mentioned that Jonas' current team just fired there head coach and have just hired a new one, so BC would like to coordinate some stuff with him if Jonas stays.
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Apollo wrote: View PostSource: TSN.ca
I hope the big man refines his english. He's going to get bombarded with media all the time. He looked dumbfounded mostly through his interviews thus far. When he says "I don't" I think he means "I don't understand the question" and not "I don't know the answer to hardly anything you're asking me".
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CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View PostTo me, this draft reminded me a lot of the first ever Raptors draft... the majority of fans were screaming for the NCAA tournament darling Ed O'Bannon, just like they were screaming for Walker/Knight tonight... the majority was left disappointed and out for blood, but management knew best and it turned out being a great pick (Mighty Mouse).
B-ball knowledge knew it was a good pick.
But back then there weren't as many savvy b-ball fans in Canada. This is over a decade later, way more knowledgeable fans, way more local kids playing ball, way more b-ball culture. I've gone into bars and hung out with seniors watching Bennetton Treviso playing Euro League on their laptops. That was not happening back then. Maybe people watched March Madness, but that was it.
If people didn't like the pick its not a blind lack of knowledge. Enough of us are online to know that Cleveland liked the kid more than Kanter. There are other issues at play.
1. Euro fatigue - rightly or wrongly players like Bargs and Hedo have made fans forget about Garbo and undervalue Jose...
2. Misdirection - Raps fans were sold Knight from day 1 ... We bought the sell job.
3. With three "bigs" fans thought Center could be played by committee until a veteran C could be brought in via FA or trade, PG of SF were scene as more immediate issues.
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tbihis wrote: View PostThe only concern would be is he's 19, and already 7feet, with much euro experience with lots more potential. And we know who the last player we picked who had the exact same credentials. And now everybody wants this player's head.
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NoPropsneeded wrote: View PostI think BC will end up buying him out. I have a feeling we'll hear his name on opening night
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jk1m wrote: View PostCorrect me if I'm mistaken but doesn't Jonas have similar attributes and physical measurements to Joakim Noah with a softer touch and a better free throw percentage?...
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blackjitsu wrote: View Post2. Misdirection - Raps fans were sold Knight from day 1 ... We bought the sell job.
3. With three "bigs" fans thought Center could be played by committee until a veteran C could be brought in via FA or trade, PG of SF were scene as more immediate issues.
On one hand, you talk so highly of Raptors fans, yet from your characterization in #2, Raptors fans must be super-naive and new to the NBA if they think GMs make a habit of truthfully releasing into public knowledge who they covet. Not to mention, it also doesn't make Raptors fans look very good if they're so fixated on a certain draft prospect that they would actually be unhappy if someone unexpectedly fell to them.
#3 is a matter of your personal opinion. Perhaps some other fans share it, but it certainly isn't shared by all. I have no idea how Davis/Johnson/Bargnani playing C by committee is okay but Calderon/Bayless/Barbosa covering the 1 is not. At least Calderon's effect on the team's offense makes up for his defensive deficiencies. Neither Davis nor Johnson are suited to defending the bigger centers in the league, and Bargnani's offensive contribution has yet to exceed his negative impact on the team's defense. SF is probably the biggest hole, but the "knowledgeable fans" would also know that next year has more highly touted SFs than anything else, and almost no bigs. Furthermore, the "knowledgeable fans" would realize that on a team with such little talent, drafting for need instead of the best talent available is a fool's task -- it was a 22-win team after all, nobody should be untouchable.
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RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View PostBut.. but.. Bismack was available and he does everything Jonas V does except better and is younger, has more muscle and arguably potential.
That being said I don't think it's a great pick but I don't think its a horrible pick.Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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