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grindhouse wrote: View PostThe US team didn't have many of the kids from the hoop summit American team. So it seems like they didn't send their best talent into this tourney. I personally don't think Patrick will be a lottery pick when he does come out but that's just me.Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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Bendit wrote: View PostThere is also the fact that unlike the US team most of the others have defined basketball programs in their countries that make the national team play together quite a bit during the year. I think even Canada does this a bit which is more if at all for US basketball teams at such tournaments. They tend not to be "teams"....they get far because of their talent level...just like our hockey teams.
Tim W. wrote: View PostThe US had at least two players that are potential lottery picks, and several others that are likely to be drafted. Only a few NCAA teams have that kind of talent on their team. And they came in fifth. I'd say the talent level at the tournament was pretty good.
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grindhouse wrote: View PostThe US team didn't have many of the kids from the hoop summit American team. So it seems like they didn't send their best talent into this tourney. I personally don't think Patrick will be a lottery pick when he does come out but that's just me.
The U19 Tournament basically says you can only have 19 years olds; or guys Under 19, but Older than 18.
Because there are also an U18 and U16 teams. I think thats how it works.
After a quick glance at the Rosters and Birthdates of the players, every single guy from Team USA, Lithuania, Australia, and likely all the rest of the teams, is 19 years old. Every single one.
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joey_hesketh wrote: View PostBecause some of the guys from the Hoops summit were 17 & 18 as well 19 years old.
The U19 Tournament basically says you can only have 19 years olds; or guys Under 19, but Older than 18.
Because there are also an U18 and U16 teams. I think thats how it works.
After a quick glance at the Rosters and Birthdates of the players, every single guy from Team USA, Lithuania, Australia, and likely all the rest of the teams, is 19 years old. Every single one.
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Soft Euro wrote: View PostThere were some young players. I can't name them all without looking it up, but e.g. Dario Saric, center for Croatia, is born on the 8th of April in 1994, so he was a young 17. He played a lot and good too, 4th in scoring, 3th in Rebouding.
I didn't spend too much time researching my point. As you can tell. haha
Stupid work, getting in the way Basketball.
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Apollo wrote: View PostTossing out these general statements with no backing isn't furthering your stance. I can say "the moon is made of cheese and everyone knows it" but at the end of the day that doesn't make the moon made out of cheese.
Suddenly we can't use opinion around here without having to prove it as if its fact? Get over yourself.
As I told Tim, if you don't agree with me fine. By all means think this tournament is whatever you want to... I don't think this tournament means squat.
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GarbageTime wrote: View PostSuddenly we can't use opinion around here without having to prove it as if its fact? Get over yourself.
As I told Tim, if you don't agree with me fine. By all means think this tournament is whatever you want to... I don't think this tournament means squat.
It's fine if you have an opinion about something. But if you state and can't back it up, then you are going to get jumped on, and rightfully so.Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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GarbageTime wrote: View PostSuddenly we can't use opinion around here without having to prove it as if its fact? Get over yourself.
As I told Tim, if you don't agree with me fine. By all means think this tournament is whatever you want to... I don't think this tournament means squat.
Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on the NCAA season play, conference tournaments, or Final 4 tournament? Do those competitions means squat as well?
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Matt52 wrote: View PostRegarding the U19 tournament I get you don't think it means squat - that is fine.
Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on the NCAA season play, conference tournaments, or Final 4 tournament? Do those competitions means squat as well?
I probably could give general decending order for tournament(s) (especially limited by age) but for ease of argument they all fit in the "don't mean squat" category. The "good players" excelling in them should be expected. If they don't, there should be some concern about those players.
But in general I'm just not a "draft pick" kinda guy. I put little faith in what these guys do until I see them step on the NBA court. Although just like anyone else there are guys I like more than others (and no doubt I'm wrong just as often as I'm right).
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GarbageTime wrote: View PostNCAA season > Euroleague Season > all tournaments
I probably could give general decending order for tournament(s) (especially limited by age) but for ease of argument they all fit in the "don't mean squat" category. The "good players" excelling in them should be expected. If they don't, there should be some concern about those players.
But in general I'm just not a "draft pick" kinda guy. I put little faith in what these guys do until I see them step on the NBA court. Although just like anyone else there are guys I like more than others (and no doubt I'm wrong just as often as I'm right).
In the end there might be correlations but I agree none of it means squat until they compete in the NBA. For every Darko there is an Adam Morrison. Success in whatever 'feeder' does not necessarily mean success in the NBA.
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GarbageTime wrote: View PostNCAA season > Euroleague Season > all tournaments
I probably could give general decending order for tournament(s) (especially limited by age) but for ease of argument they all fit in the "don't mean squat" category. The "good players" excelling in them should be expected. If they don't, there should be some concern about those players.
But in general I'm just not a "draft pick" kinda guy. I put little faith in what these guys do until I see them step on the NBA court. Although just like anyone else there are guys I like more than others (and no doubt I'm wrong just as often as I'm right).
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thatguythere wrote: View PostWow, you put the NCAA above the Euroleague? That's stupid, you just seem extremely uneducated about basketball on a world scale. Basketball doesn't start and end in America.
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GarbageTime wrote: View PostNCAA season > Euroleague Season > all tournaments
I probably could give general decending order for tournament(s) (especially limited by age) but for ease of argument they all fit in the "don't mean squat" category. The "good players" excelling in them should be expected. If they don't, there should be some concern about those players.
But in general I'm just not a "draft pick" kinda guy. I put little faith in what these guys do until I see them step on the NBA court. Although just like anyone else there are guys I like more than others (and no doubt I'm wrong just as often as I'm right).Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
Follow me on Twitter.
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Soft Euro wrote: View PostWell ... for some reason the NBA calls the champion the champion of the world. I remember Popovic questioning this a couple of years ago. But apparently, for some (including some in charge), it does start and end in America.Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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