Where would he go in the 2012 draft if he had opted to not enter the 2011 draft?
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Based on how J.V. has played since the draft...
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Word on the street was that all GMs were big fans of the kid, but that the buyout situation was seen as a big issue. Without it and with JV's FIBA summer, I don't see any GM missing the opportunity to draft a 7'0 stud who can run, shoot and punish any team on the FT line. #1.
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There certainly seems to be no center prospect in the draft who can match his overall game. Praise and awards have followed this guy all through the past year. I have yet to vote because I'm still thinking about it. It's hard for me not vote #1 or #2.
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Apollo wrote: View PostThere certainly seems to be no center prospect in the draft who can match his overall game. Praise and awards have followed this guy all through the past year. I have yet to vote because I'm still thinking about it. It's hard for me not vote #1 or #2.
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I can't see any GM picking Valanciunas over Davis. That's not taking anything away from Val, but merely the promise that David gives to a team. I think if Val was in the 2012 draft that Davis would still be viewed as the consensus overall pick.
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Nilanka wrote: View PostHe's gotta be thinking Anthony Davis.
I would probably put JV in the top 5 of this draft. He has a great body of work so far, but at the end of the day he is still untested in North American style play. I think Rubio's success has many people thinking that all young European players will translate just as easily to the NBA. For me anyways, the college game is a better way to judge young prospects.
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Mediumcore wrote: View PostI would probably put JV in the top 5 of this draft. He has a great body of work so far, but at the end of the day he is still untested in North American style play. I think Rubio's success has many people thinking that all young European players will translate just as easily to the NBA. For me anyways, the college game is a better way to judge young prospects.
Most young european entering the draft are bench players back home with limited minutes and not necessarily high level experience, so in this case, i do agree that college game is better.
But in JV's case (or Rubio's), the dude is a starter on his team (and has been for quite a while now), has played in the Euroleague, FIBA Euro championships : he's used to play with grown men at a professionnal level. This is priceless : don't forget that most college players won't ever become professionnal, so I think the average level is higher in Europe.
Then there is the style/rules differences, but there are some between college hoops and NBA too.
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I think Davis would go #1. #2 would go to either Barnes or MKG, and #3 would go to JV.
I can see JV almost like the Kanter pick last year. You have the automatic #1 in Davis.. and then probably the best wing in Barnes or MKG as #2, and then JV as #3. Of course this is all hypothetical since we don't know the order of the lottery and which athletes are going to declare.
But I think JV would have been in the top 3.
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Fanchie wrote: View PostI have to disagree. Well, partly at least.
Most young european entering the draft are bench players back home with limited minutes and not necessarily high level experience, so in this case, i do agree that college game is better.
But in JV's case (or Rubio's), the dude is a starter on his team (and has been for quite a while now), has played in the Euroleague, FIBA Euro championships : he's used to play with grown men at a professionnal level. This is priceless : don't forget that most college players won't ever become professionnal, so I think the average level is higher in Europe.
Then there is the style/rules differences, but there are some between college hoops and NBA too.
Mediumcore wrote: View PostI would probably put JV in the top 5 of this draft. He has a great body of work so far, but at the end of the day he is still untested in North American style play. I think Rubio's success has many people thinking that all young European players will translate just as easily to the NBA. For me anyways, the college game is a better way to judge young prospects.
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as a qualified GM I would not draft anyone with a unibrow. By 18 you can't NOT know you have one and not do something about it. Hence I will not be drafting Anthony Davis skillbedamnedFor still frame photograph of me reading the DeRozan thread please refer to my avatar
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thead wrote: View Postas a qualified GM I would not draft anyone with a unibrow. By 18 you can't NOT know you have one and not do something about it. Hence I will not be drafting Anthony Davis skillbedamned
Where can I get a sweater like that? Burt, the place where the Turtleneck and V-neck officially united as one all powerful force.
Now, back to the matter at hand:
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