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Bendit wrote: View PostRE this S&T arrangement Nash has with the Suns, this is a mutual one of good faith by Nash. He did not have to do this. The Suns only leverage is Nash's goodwill to his old team. Period. I suppose this is going to come down to Nash making his choice first of a team (based on whatever his priorities are) and on the understanding with that team that he will only join them based on a trade arrangement with PHX who will then try for the best deal they can....but they are really in no position to dictate.A player is really only forced to seek a sign-and-trade if he wants to go to a team that is capped-out (or doesn't have enough cap room to give the player his full starting salary) and can't sign him directly.
My concern is that it may be to our advantaged to be "capped out". We maintain the exceptions including the 7 mil TPE and the 5 mil mid-level. The S and T could provide us an advantage as well in not having to amnesty Jose. If we are indeed "capped out" at this point, then Phoenix has to sign Nash and Trade him to us in order for him to get his 12 mil.per.
We can sign Nash outright (for his 12 mil) after first relinquishing the bird rights to Bayless or by amnestying Calderon, and also kissing the other exemptions good bye. So I am thinking Phoenix has more cards in their hand than just goodwill. They may be in a position to hold out for more.
I am not quite ready to put a "period" at the end of this. I have just really started delving into this CBA stuff in the last little while, and at times it makes my head hurt. I certainly am interested in other's opinions on how this stuff works.Last edited by jbml; Sun Jul 1, 2012, 05:34 PM.
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I don't get it
I have to admit I don't understand this fixation on signing Nash. Don't get me wrong, he's a great talent and a tremendous asset to any team but is this really part of any long term solution to getting this team back to respectability? I don't think so.
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sg60 wrote: View PostI have to admit I don't understand this fixation on signing Nash. Don't get me wrong, he's a great talent and a tremendous asset to any team but is this really part of any long term solution to getting this team back to respectability? I don't think so.
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malefax wrote: View PostHow can you say he's not a good fit? The only teams he's not a good fit for are ones that already have a superstar point guard.
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When will we learn that BC isn't about addressing actual issues. He's a quick fix guy. Nash will increase revenues across the board while making us marginally better. It's his contract year and he wants to please the board. What better way then giving them huge increases in revenue, filling the seats, PR boosts, and perhaps a playoff appearence. 3 years down the road we will start "retooling" again. It's what this team is about.
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Signing Nash for 3 years gives the Raptors a 3 year window to find the successor at the point. At the same time, having Nash man the point guard spot will allow our young players to grow. Think of guys like Joe Johnson, Amare, Q Rich, Grant Hill, Shawn Marion, Marcin Gortat, Leandro Barbosa, etc. Nash needs to be given some credit for making them look good, allowing these players to realize their potential, develop confidence and grow as players.
On the business side, signing Nash would bring credibility to the franchise, fill up the seats and have other players / markets take notice of the Raptors. It's a wonderful marketing move that will pay dividends for the franchise.
The biggest difference with Nash and Jose is Nash's ability to make something happen regardless of body position, regardless of what hand is controlling the ball, the ability to go left or right and break his man down without using a screen. Nash also is EXCELLENT at advancing the ball via pass leading to transition opportunities, which fits perfectly with our young athletic wings.
There are many reasons why Nash would be beneficial for our struggling franchise in both basketball and business perspectives.“I don’t create controversies. They’re there long before I open my mouth. I just bring them to your attention.”
-- Charles Barkley
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torch19 wrote: View PostSigning Nash for 3 years gives the Raptors a 3 year window to find the successor at the point. At the same time, having Nash man the point guard spot will allow our young players to grow. Think of guys like Joe Johnson, Amare, Q Rich, Grant Hill, Shawn Marion, Marcin Gortat, Leandro Barbosa, etc. Nash needs to be given some credit for making them look good, allowing these players to realize their potential, develop confidence and grow as players.
On the business side, signing Nash would bring credibility to the franchise, fill up the seats and have other players / markets take notice of the Raptors. It's a wonderful marketing move that will pay dividends for the franchise.
The biggest difference with Nash and Jose is Nash's ability to make something happen regardless of body position, regardless of what hand is controlling the ball, the ability to go left or right and break his man down without using a screen. Nash also is EXCELLENT at advancing the ball via pass leading to transition opportunities, which fits perfectly with our young athletic wings.
There are many reasons why Nash would be beneficial for our struggling franchise in both basketball and business perspectives.
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torch19 wrote: View PostSigning Nash for 3 years gives the Raptors a 3 year window to find the successor at the point. At the same time, having Nash man the point guard spot will allow our young players to grow. Think of guys like Joe Johnson, Amare, Q Rich, Grant Hill, Shawn Marion, Marcin Gortat, Leandro Barbosa, etc. Nash needs to be given some credit for making them look good, allowing these players to realize their potential, develop confidence and grow as players.
On the business side, signing Nash would bring credibility to the franchise, fill up the seats and have other players / markets take notice of the Raptors. It's a wonderful marketing move that will pay dividends for the franchise.
The biggest difference with Nash and Jose is Nash's ability to make something happen regardless of body position, regardless of what hand is controlling the ball, the ability to go left or right and break his man down without using a screen. Nash also is EXCELLENT at advancing the ball via pass leading to transition opportunities, which fits perfectly with our young athletic wings.
There are many reasons why Nash would be beneficial for our struggling franchise in both basketball and business perspectives.
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RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View PostShort sited. We are going to end up in the position where we were with Bosh. 3 years and first or 2nd round at best. I'd much rather have someone who can be a long term solution like Dragic/Lowry.“The saving of our world from pending doom will come, not through the complacent adjustment of the conforming majority, but through the creative maladjustment of a nonconforming minority.” - Martin Luther King
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I was and am a big proponent of signing Nash.
HOWEVER, I always thought around $10M per year. $2M is not a HUGE difference but it is a difference (20%).
If the Raptors do this, I hope it is via sign and trade. If not, the off season is over unless someone is amnestied and say good-bye to the Barbosa TPE, MLE, Bayless' rights, Gray's rights, and Weems' rights.
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