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Trade the pick: ESPN late to the party (274)
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I tend to think that for the Raptors the draft starts to look less appealing after the top 6. I suppose it might stretch to 7 if a team really likes Sullinger (over Barnes). Beyond that, you are left with enigmas (like PJ3) and players that could probably end up anywhere from 7-14. So, I could see the Raptors trading down from #7, if they end up there. But remember, unless they finish with the #6 or lower seed in the final standings, there less than 10% chance that they will select at #7 or lower.
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Papa Burgundy wrote: View PostThe only way I trade the pick is if the incoming package includes another lottery pick in this year's draft.
For example: If we fall in the 5-9 range and the players we covet (Davis, MKG, Beal, Barnes) are off the board, maybe we either trade up to get them with our early 2nd rounder or Ed Davis included, or trade down a few spots to the range of a few other interesting pieces in the later lottery range (Lillard, Marshall, Rivers) and pick-up another asset in the process.
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stretch wrote: View PostI get your point, so it's a big yes, any GM would trade their pick in the right deal but I don't believe the 76ers would trade Holiday.
Holiday has regressed this year.
Evans, Holiday, and AI are all ball dominant players.
76ers have need at PF/C spots.
GM talks about PG playing SG.
Coach talks about SG playing PG.
I wouldn't bet my life on this proposal but I do think it is plausible.
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Apollo wrote: View PostAt no point. History shows that Colangelo's track record is very good when using the pick and really poor when trading the pick. If you respect trends then you don't support trading the pick.
Many of those trades were made early in his career in Phoenix.
Many more of those trades were made towards the end of his career in Phoenix due to cost cutting by owner.
He has only traded 1 first round pick in Toronto and that was going for quick fixes with Bosh as a centre piece.
What do you think about my fixation for April 4th, 2012?
Raps pick (cannot get AD, MKG, or BB) and ED for Jrue Holiday and 76ers pick - what would you say?
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Matt52 wrote: View PostA little grain of salt for the history:
Many of those trades were made early in his career in Phoenix.
Many more of those trades were made towards the end of his career in Phoenix due to cost cutting by owner.
He has only traded 1 first round pick in Toronto and that was going for quick fixes with Bosh as a centre piece.
What do you think about my fixation for April 4th, 2012?
Raps pick (cannot get AD, MKG, or BB) and ED for Jrue Holiday and 76ers pick - what would you say?
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Do you guys think that Derrick Williams is worth the pick if the wolves are willing to trade him. He is not getting consistent playing time and the Wolves may want to fill other positional needs. It's more likely that they trade Beasley but I can't help but wonder. This would fill the SF position nicely. Personally, I would only consider this trade if the pick was lower than 5.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostRaps can't get Davis, Beal, or MKG - trade the pick (and possibly ED) to Philly for Holiday and 76ers pick? Would you?
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Apollo wrote: View PostI would say, no, let's look at Barnes, Lamb and Rivers to name a few. The Raptors should be able to get a really promising PG prospect for Ed without sacraficing great draft position. This is a deep draft.
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