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charlesnba23 wrote: View PostMango, those 2 guys would bring stability to a roster fulled with young players. Both are experienced and talented guys, but they are still relatively young. Mo is definitely an upgrade over Forbes, and Okafor is a real C. We need veteran savy, and we need talent. Those players bring both. And I don't think we could get much better without loosing huge parts of our core.
Hello, NO would do this because Okafor is payed a whole lot of money and he's irrelevant to their team. Clipps would do this because they need help inside and they won't get better than Amir via free agency.
You can bring in guys with much better pedigrees to be a veteran presence in the locker room than Okafor and Mo Williams for significantly cheaper.
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They would not come here only to be locker room/vet presence! They would play, and they would play a big role! All those deals for Gay, Granger, etc... We need to give away our best players to get them. Personally, I would not do those kind of trades.
You talk about starters, but imagine a bench filled with guys such as Mo, Emeka, JJ, Ed, Kleiza, Kendall Marshall and Aaron Gray. This would be great, IMO. I would prefer to have this bench than to have Gay or Granger with no bench.
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charlesnba23 wrote: View PostThey would not come here only to be locker room/vet presence! They would play, and they would play a big role! All those deals for Gay, Granger, etc... We need to give away our best players to get them. Personally, I would not do those kind of trades.
You talk about starters, but imagine a bench filled with guys such as Mo, Emeka, JJ, Ed, Kleiza, Kendall Marshall and Aaron Gray. This would be great, IMO. I would prefer to have this bench than to have Gay or Granger with no bench.
You need to give up assets to acquire talent. It's as simple as that. And we need talent - badly. And when I say talent, I don't mean bench players, I mean players that can start and average over 33 minutes a game and make a real difference.
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4 years ago, did OKC had any all NBA player? Any all defensive? Did they trade for a superstar? 4 years later, where are they? Yeah, I know, DeMar ain't no Durant, but I think we got a pretty good core right now. Why rush things? We could end up regret it. Let's see what this team can do at the beginning of next year before going after a ''superstar''.
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i would bring in okafor if we got a pick back because 14 a year is pretty steep and we are doing the hornets a favour, but new orleans isn't going to be sending one out.
but with batum making himself invaluable to the blazers my next targets are mayo or gay. i would prefer mayo. heisley is super cheap and if they lose he wont want to spend the money to keep them there.
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charlesnba23 wrote: View Post4 years ago, did OKC had any all NBA player? Any all defensive? Did they trade for a superstar? 4 years later, where are they? Yeah, I know, DeMar ain't no Durant, but I think we got a pretty good core right now. Why rush things? We could end up regret it. Let's see what this team can do at the beginning of next year before going after a ''superstar''.(Sorry for poor English )
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Thomas A. wrote: View PostUhh, now I feel gross for calling DeRozan "Deroz". Douchiness is too great a price for brevity.
MangoKid wrote: View PostIf - and that's a huge if Atlanta agrees to that deal, Colangelo will have to sign Smith long term - and that's a huge if as well. He's an expiring next season. It would look really bad to have Smith just for one season.
Toronto does a good job of supporting it's players and the team when we have a decent product, Plus, I think we'll give smith the kid of props he's looking for.
charlesnba23 wrote: View Post4 years ago, did OKC had any all NBA player? Any all defensive? Did they trade for a superstar? 4 years later, where are they? Yeah, I know, DeMar ain't no Durant, but I think we got a pretty good core right now. Why rush things? We could end up regret it. Let's see what this team can do at the beginning of next year before going after a ''superstar''.
one of at least Bargs/Ed/Amir is available
Calderon is on an expiring deal and not really part of long term plans (although resigning him for less and have him come in off the bench wouldn't be a bad decision)
With JV coming in we don't necessarily need another rookie, let alone 3
We are in good financial shape and can afford to look at acquiring more talent, yes we'll have to give some things up, and I don't want to blow up the roster, but there are a few combinations of outgoing talent that won't impact us in the grand scheme of things."They're going to have to rename the whole conference after us: Toronto Raptors 2014-2015 Northern Conference Champions" ~ ezzbee Dec. 2014
"I guess I got a little carried away there" ~ ezzbee Apr. 2015
"We only have one rule on this team. What is that rule? E.L.E. That's right's, E.L.E, and what does E.L.E. stand for? EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY. Right there up on the wall, because this isn't just a basketball team, this is a lifestyle. ~ Jackie Moon
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charlesnba23 wrote: View PostTrade Amir for Okafor
Trade Forbes and both 2nd round pick for Mo Williams
Draft Kendall Marshall
Valanciunas/Okafor/Gray/Alabi
Bargnani/Davis/Magloire
DeRozan/Johnson/Kleiza
Bayless/Williams/Anderson
Calderon/Marshall
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charlesnba23 wrote: View Post4 years ago, did OKC had any all NBA player? Any all defensive? Did they trade for a superstar? 4 years later, where are they? Yeah, I know, DeMar ain't no Durant, but I think we got a pretty good core right now. Why rush things? We could end up regret it. Let's see what this team can do at the beginning of next year before going after a ''superstar''.
You never know if someone will end up like Durant or like Beasley. There is so much luck involved it's not even funny.
The bottom line is, the teams that have won championships, with exception of the Spurs, have ASSEMBLED a core group of players because there is less luck involved in that. You put Pierce, Garnet and Ray Allen together, you can be pretty sure you will have a good team.
The Raptors need to go after players that will change the course of the franchise, not JJ Reddick. I agree that this time may not be now, but at some point we will have to make a move and get a proven player who take us to the next level.
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Nilanka wrote: View PostThis team would be lucky to win 30 games next year.
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I'm still trying to wrap my head around Casey's comment about the need for shooters veteran or otherwise. Don't we need a post presence more so than a shooter? What good are guys like Reddick and Dorrell Wright if they can't get open shots? They don't create shots for themselves or others. They are there to draw the defense to the perimeter and to make the defense pay when they double players in the post. Is this another classic Casey smoke screen? That wacky bastard
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charlesnba23 wrote: View PostThey won 23 this year on a 66 games season, without Bargs for the most part of the year and with a lot of other significant players injured all season long. On a 82 games season, this is 29 wins. So you think that by switching Amir for JV and Okafor, having Mo Williams instead of Gary Forbes and Kendall Marshall instead of Anthony Carter this team would be lucky to win 30 games next year?
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Mediumcore wrote: View PostI'm still trying to wrap my head around Casey's comment about the need for shooters veteran or otherwise. Don't we need a post presence more so than a shooter? What good are guys like Reddick and Dorrell Wright if they can't get open shots? They don't create shots for themselves or others. They are there to draw the defense to the perimeter and to make the defense pay when they double players in the post. Is this another classic Casey smoke screen? That wacky bastardLast edited by DoNDaDDa; Fri May 4, 2012, 11:19 AM.
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