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Sources ESPN: Jose Calderon wants trade (#68)
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Apollo wrote: View PostThe pick to Houston is lotto protected so are you so sure?
They can't even make a trade with a 15-30 stipulation because say it goes lottery in 2014 and then they could make the playoffs in 2015 and would violate league rules of no 1st round pick trade in 2 consecutive seasons.
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Hugmenot wrote: View PostI hope cooler heads prevail and that the Raptors offer Jose a $16-18M 4-year extension when teams can extend players.
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Apollo wrote: View PostThe pick to Houston is lotto protected so are you so sure?
Top 3/2/1 (depends on year) -> TOR
Other lottery -> HOU
Outside Lottery -> Other team
EDIT: Matt just debunked this. Why is it you can't trade 2 consecutive picks?
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KHD wrote: View PostSeems to me they could offer a lottery protected pick. That might be the most convoluted draft pick in history:
Top 3/2/1 (depends on year) -> TOR
Other lottery -> HOU
Outside Lottery -> Other team
EDIT: Matt just debunked this. Why is it you can't trade 2 consecutive picks?
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KHD wrote: View PostSeems to me they could offer a lottery protected pick. That might be the most convoluted draft pick in history:
Top 3/2/1 (depends on year) -> TOR
Other lottery -> HOU
Outside Lottery -> Other team
EDIT: Matt just debunked this. Why is it you can't trade 2 consecutive picks?
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Apollo wrote: View PostAtlanta would be a place that would make a lot of sense for Jose. So would Indiana.
I'm not sure what I would be looking for from those teams. If ATL is looking to make a play for D12 they might consider moving Smith for less than you think to free up space. I wonder if Jose plus DeMar and a future unprotected 1st rounder would do the trick? Of course a contract extension would have to be reached prior to the trade.Apollo wrote: View PostHa, ha clearly I need to get caught up. I wasn't busy during the boring month leading up the the draft but since then I've be out of the loop.
Augustin is a one year deal. Hill is used to coming off the bench and I feel he's better suited to that. Calderon would be the perfect quarterback for that exciting team in my opinion.
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Pretty frustrating to watch other teams ship around the likes of Colison, Augustin, Sessions and Dragic while were standing here with Jose and our dick out. Teams with the PG need are filling their gaps, and thus limiting the market for Jose and limiting any potential return package.
We are going to get as much as we got for Barbosa. Unless we're willing to take back a bad contract in exchange for a 1st rounder, we'll get a late second rounder from a quasi-contender.
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NoBan wrote: View PostPretty frustrating to watch other teams ship around the likes of Colison, Augustin, Sessions and Dragic while were standing here with Jose and our dick out. Teams with the PG need are filling their gaps, and thus limiting the market for Jose and limiting any potential return package.
We are going to get as much as we got for Barbosa. Unless we're willing to take back a bad contract in exchange for a 1st rounder, we'll get a late second rounder from a quasi-contender.
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Apollo wrote: View PostI think we're forgetting about Jose pretty much saying "It's TJ or me" prior to Jose signing his current contract. He wanted to be a starter and so now, here we go again; this time he's not waiting for fee agency. Another athletic PG is added to the mix. One who has also complained about not starting in the past. You have two PG's with the same strong desire to lead and only one can do it in the prominent role. Calderon won't change his mind on this. He's still good enough to earn a starting role on half the teams in the league.
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Hugmenot wrote: View PostI would not bet against the story being blown out of proportion in the media. I am hoping it's just grumblings and that Jose will come to accept the situation given a few weeks or months.
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Calderon has been nothing but class for this organization. Hate to see him leave, but wish him nothing but the best. The Mavs are showing true interest in Jose and it might be a good spot for him.
Calderon for Dominique Jones + Jae Crowder + 2nd rounder could work.
Memphis and Philly have been suggested as well ...
Calderon + Derozan + Amir Johnson for Rudy Gay + Tony Wrotten + 2nd rounder could work
Calderon + Derozan for Iguodala + Vucevic could work.
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Blacklash2k4 wrote: View Post
He's one of the most loyal Raptors in history and he's been on the trading block year after year with numerous trade rumors involving him. But hey, I guess that's business....
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