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OFFICIAL: James Johnson sent to Kings for 2nd Rounder
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I hate to rain on all the Johnson lovers parade but a high 2nd is what JJ is worth. This was a fair trade. Barbosa trade still doesn't make sense to me, I just assume it was the only offer on the table because it wasn't even a cost saving move, we had already paid half his final year.
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Letter N wrote: View PostI hate to rain on all the Johnson lovers parade but a high 2nd is what JJ is worth. This was a fair trade. Barbosa trade still doesn't make sense to me, I just assume it was the only offer on the table because it wasn't even a cost saving move, we had already paid half his final year.
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ball4life wrote: View Postno thats not wat i said, if we are going to waste money on some one like fields who we believe has the POTENTIAL to be MEDIOCRE and will never justify his contract. and by no means i am saying we should keep jj. but instead, we could have dumped all da expiring salary like jj, jose, eddie, forbes and other small assets to atlanta( which is exactly what Brooklyn did) for Joe Johnson.
this is exactly how competitive teams are built, not by paying nash and fields a total of close to 60 mil over 3 years!!!
So you're saying, paying Nash and Fields $56 mil (not $60 mil) over 3 years is a dumb move but paying Joe Johnson $90 mil over 4 years is the way BC should have gone??? Joe Johnson who will be 35 and will be paid $25 mil at the end of his contract is what I can define as having the "POTENTIAL to be MEDIOCRE and will never justify his contract". Most people believe Atlanta won this trade. I agree with you though that Brooklyn would be competitive because they had Wallace, and re-signed DWill and Lopez. With your trade proposal, whou would have been left for the Raps to play with Joe Johnson???
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Letter N wrote: View PostI hate to rain on all the Johnson lovers parade but a high 2nd is what JJ is worth. This was a fair trade. Barbosa trade still doesn't make sense to me, I just assume it was the only offer on the table because it wasn't even a cost saving move, we had already paid half his final year.
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Soft Euro wrote: View PostMy memory might be failing me, but what competitive team with no all-star already there was built by trading for someone they'll have to pay close to 90 million over 4 years starting when that guy is already 31 untill he is almost 35; a player who looks past his peak and in two years (when he still has two years left on his albatros contract) will be top 10 among active players in total minutes played? I'm not exactly wondering why Atlanta traded him.
Maybe signing Nash and Fields was not a good idea, but trading for Johnson certainly wasn't.
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golden wrote: View PostActually, I agree that Joe Johnson in vacuum is bad idea, but in the context of bait to acquire Deron Williams, it worked out perfectly for Brooklyn. D-Will himself said he was headed to Dallas until the JJ trade changed his mind. Apparently Prokhorov is so stinking rich that luxury tax means nothing to him, so the Nets are at different financial level than even Mark Cuban or the Knicks. If having D-Will + JJ + Wallace + Brook Lopez in place nets the NETS Dwight Howard in free agency next season, then JJ was the first domino of strategy. Good move, you have to admit.
In doing what they have done they have limited themselves to mini MLE and min contracts from here on out. Starting next year luxury tax teams cannot even do sign and trades so getting D12 is going to be extremely difficult unless he signs for $3m.Last edited by mcHAPPY; Wed Jul 18, 2012, 02:58 PM.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostThere is the rub though.
In doing what they have done they have limited themselves to mini MLE and min contracts from here on out. Starting next year luxury tax teams cannot even do sign and trades so getting D12 is going to be extremely difficult unless he signs for $3m.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostYou really think BC would not take the best deal possible?
It might be hard to nelieve but raptor fans might have a much higher value of him compared to the rest of the league.
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