The Bulls played .594 ball in 32 games without Rose last year (including playoffs). Unless they commit to a full tank session, I don't think we can write them off completely. They're still a very well-coached team.
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This was my original.
1. Heat
2. Pacers
3. Celtics
4. Nets
5. Knicks
6. Bulls
7. Hawks
8. Raptors
9. Bucks
10. Sixers
11. Wizards
12. Pistons
13. Cavs (injuries)
14. Bobcats
15. Magic
With the Howard trade and a couple of Knick additions, updated:
1. Heat
2. Pacers
3. Celtics
4. Knicks
5. Nets
6. Bulls
7. Hawks
8. Raptors
9. Sixers
10. Bucks
11. Wizards
12. Pistons
13. Cavs
14. Bobcats
15. Magic
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Matt52 wrote: View PostThis was my original.
1. Heat
2. Pacers
3. Celtics
4. Nets
5. Knicks
6. Bulls
7. Hawks
8. Raptors
9. Bucks
10. Sixers
11. Wizards
12. Pistons
13. Cavs (injuries)
14. Bobcats
15. Magic
With the Howard trade and a couple of Knick additions, updated:
1. Heat
2. Pacers
3. Celtics
4. Knicks
5. Nets
6. Bulls
7. Hawks
8. Raptors
9. Sixers
10. Bucks
11. Wizards
12. Pistons
13. Cavs
14. Bobcats
15. MagicTwitter - @thekid_it
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I can see us being in a pretty tight race with the Sixers, Wizards and Bucks for that 8th seed. A lot hinges on whether or not key players for each of these teams can stay healthy, and how quickly new players are able to adapt and integrate themselves into their team's system. I am, of course, slightly biased as Toronto is my team and I'm pretty pumped on how our roster's been shaping up, but I'm confident Toronto can pull through. Between Philly, Milwaukee and Washington, I honestly think they either made the wrong moves this offseason, or didn't make enough of them.
1: Heat
2: Pacers
3: Celtics
4: Nets
5: Knicks
6: Hawks
7: Bulls
8: Raptors
9: Sixers
10: Bucks
11: Wizards
12: Pistons
13: Cavaliers
14: Bobcats
15: MagicLast edited by Phil; Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:53 AM.
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This how the end of the season will look like
1: Heat (few additions can repeat)
2: Pacers (unchanged)
3: Celtics (old new additions will not help)
4: Nets (chemistry)
5: Knicks (Melo will he be a team player)
6: Raptors (potential young hungry) first 50 win season
7: Bucks (playoff team)
8: Wizards (with veteran now can they make a playoff run)
9: Sixers (little change address the center position)
10: Hawks (tanking)
11: Bulls ( no Rose no playoff)
12: Pistons (not ready for playoff)
13: Cavaliers (not ready for playoff)
14: Bobcats (not ready for playoff)
15: Magic (TANKING)
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mcsemcp73 wrote: View PostThis how the end of the season will look like
1: Heat (few additions can repeat)
2: Pacers (unchanged)
3: Celtics (old new additions will not help)
4: Nets (chemistry)
5: Knicks (Melo will he be a team player)
6: Raptors (potential young hungry) first 50 win season
7: Bucks (playoff team)
8: Wizards (with veteran now can they make a playoff run)
9: Sixers (little change address the center position)
10: Hawks (tanking)
11: Bulls ( no Rose no playoff)
12: Pistons (not ready for playoff)
13: Cavaliers (not ready for playoff)
14: Bobcats (not ready for playoff)
15: Magic (TANKING)
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1.Heat
2.Celtics
3.Pacers
4.Knicks
5.Nets
6.76ers
7.Bulls
8.Hawks
9.Raptors
10.Bucks
11.Wizrds
12.Pistons
13.Cavaliers
14.Magic
15.Bobcats
I see the Raptors in the 8-11 range though. The Wizards and bucks could possibly pass them in the standings too.
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I don't get these lists. It looks like the Bulls are tanking, Orlando is tanking. New York played their best ball when they had a real point guard -- they don't anymore. The Nets added one starter -- they'll improve but playoffs? Hawks will have it tough. I really like the revamp Washington did, and the "new Sixers" ... In no particular order the 10 teams to watch should be:
Heat - Champs
Celtics - Getting older but enough young pieces to keep going
Pacers - This year they can make a big step
76ers - See above
Hawks - It'll be tough but they kept the most consistent pieces of their "core"
Raptors - An improving team traded a draft pick for a new leader, filled all perceived gaps, but will they gel?
Bucks - Weakness? An undersized backcourt
Wizards - Youth mixed with solid vets. Should be worth watching all year
Cavaliers - I like the young pieces they've assembled.
Nets - Like I said, they'll improve the question is how much?
Will this list change? Yes, pre-season trades and personnel moves still have to be made...
But, I know that I won't be watching a team with a patchwork back court with two overpaid stars whose games don't mesh. And I won't watch a team that traded away the best bench in the league while two of their starters won't be available for the start of the season. I don't want to see a team "led" by a man named "Big Baby" or a team owned by Michael Jordan (Until he inevitably gets tired of losing).
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blackjitsu wrote: View PostThe Nets added one starter -- they'll improve but playoffs?
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ESPN experts have weighed-in... they have the Raps finishing 11th in the East
Link: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/82...east-standings
I can't see Milwaukee being 5 games better than Toronto, nor can I see Cleveland being better. I think it's fair to have Toronto fighting with several teams for the 7th & 8th spots.
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CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View PostESPN experts have weighed-in... they have the Raps finishing 11th in the East
Link: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/82...east-standings
I can't see Milwaukee being 5 games better than Toronto, nor can I see Cleveland being better. I think it's fair to have Toronto fighting with several teams for the 7th & 8th spots.
And could the bulls really win 46 games without having Rose for like 2/3 of the season, while losing 4 key bench players?
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