Unless tank-nation is in effect, you NEED a good team to lure stars. So I wouldn't be quick to judge the course of this team just yet..
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Axel wrote: View PostJV is the type of player we haven't had since Oakley
...AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH (oh no my guts are hurting)
I would love to see who you'd compare as Anthony Mason....oh you're rich man.
Look I'm excited, but that's bonker bro. Oakley would smack the air out of your lungs if you looked at him crooked, JV ain't that guy man, I prey he'll be a beast but let's be careful with the comparisons.i8theball.com it's a website...about, you know....basketball.
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pillowmint wrote: View PostAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahah
...AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH (oh no my guts are hurting)
I would love to see who you'd compare as Anthony Mason....oh you're rich man.
Look I'm excited, but that's bonker bro. Oakley would smack the air out of your lungs if you looked at him crooked, JV ain't that guy man, I prey he'll be a beast but let's be careful with the comparisons.
Is JV the exact same person and player as Oakley? No, but that isn't what I said. Perhaps you should think about the context before spouting off. I never suggested that JV would be smacking people for looking at them, I only said that he'd be the physical big man we've lacked for a decade.Heir, Prince of Cambridge
If you see KeonClark in the wasteland, please share your food and water with him.
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Axel wrote: View Post...Our franchise has always had soft interior players...Having a player willing to be that guy down low is something we've sorely missed since Oakley.....
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Puffer wrote: View PostActually, Davis (Antonio), Willis, Montrose, Zan Tabak and even Oliver Miller weren't afraid to mix it up down low. but I get your point. I am excited to watch JV both play now and develop over the next couple of years. Soooo glad he got a chance to play in the Olympics against the American team so that he doesn't get to the NBA and go "Holy S**t!"Heir, Prince of Cambridge
If you see KeonClark in the wasteland, please share your food and water with him.
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Axel wrote: View PostWhat's hard to believe about comparing the only players in team history who are willing to mix it up and be physical down low? Our franchise has always had soft interior players (from Camby to Bosh to Bargnani with dozens in between). Having a player willing to be that guy down low is something we've sorely missed since Oakley.
Is JV the exact same person and player as Oakley? No, but that isn't what I said. Perhaps you should think about the context before spouting off. I never suggested that JV would be smacking people for looking at them, I only said that he'd be the physical big man we've lacked for a decade.
Again, we're all fans and I'm sorry for making a joke out of what you said (seriously). Ultimately, I hope you're right that way we (fans) win!
Cheersi8theball.com it's a website...about, you know....basketball.
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I'm excited to watch a full season of nba basketball. A full season of the raptors. The first season in 4 where playoffs were even in sight. A legitimately deep roster no matter how you slice it for the first time since 07.
Filled seats. Exposure. Meaningful basketball all season and possibly into the postseason.
We haven't had this much hope or this much of a shot ( on paper ) to reach the playoffs since bosh.
Nobody should be down.
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Sheptor wrote: View PostI'm excited to watch a full season of nba basketball. A full season of the raptors. The first season in 4 where playoffs were even in sight. A legitimately deep roster no matter how you slice it for the first time since 07.
Filled seats. Exposure. Meaningful basketball all season and possibly into the postseason.
We haven't had this much hope or this much of a shot ( on paper ) to reach the playoffs since bosh.
Nobody should be down.@Chr1st1anL
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Sheptor wrote: View PostI'm excited to watch a full season of nba basketball. A full season of the raptors. The first season in 4 where playoffs were even in sight. A legitimately deep roster no matter how you slice it for the first time since 07.
Filled seats. Exposure. Meaningful basketball all season and possibly into the postseason.
We haven't had this much hope or this much of a shot ( on paper ) to reach the playoffs since bosh.
Nobody should be down.TORONTOOOOOO RAPTORSSSSSS
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Raptor_11 wrote: View PostDefensive regression? They've added a defensive anchor in JV, who may take long to develop but its a step in the right direction. Plus the addition of arguably the best defensive PG in the league in Lowry, who can put plenty of pressure on the oppositions point of attack, as well as keep his man out of the paint. Landry Fields can defend just as good, if not better than JJ, minus the blocked shots. And Terrence Ross is surprisingly very aggressive and willing on the defensive end. I don't know exactly how they will fare defensively this season, but I think it's safe to say that they havent regressed in that part of the game.
Casey's himself is anticipating the defense to regress (3:20 mark).
Lowry's presence is negated by Bargnani being healthy and the loss of JJ... and replacing him with Fields. Fields isn't any nearly as good as a defender as JJ is. More importantly, with Bargnani back, we'd NEED JJ's excellent help defense.
Long term, we should be better. But THIS season, we will likely regress defensively, while becoming better offensively.
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I'm pessimistic because there isn't much reason for optimism.
The team as constituted:
Bargs: an incredibly skilled big who is defensively unreliable and a historically poor rebounder
DeRozan: a hard-working kid with big ups who can't really shoot from range and can't get his shot off against above-average defenders
Amir: a great 7th or 8th guy
JV: a rookie center, who, even if he pans out, will need 3-5 years to develop. Haven't seen too much from the kid yet.
Weak at the 3.
An above average (10-15th ranked) point guard and trade bait backup
This lineup scares no one.
Other reasons for dismay:
An improved but still very average bench
A GM who clearly doesn't have a plan. His pursuit of Nash showed as much.
No all-star talent since CB4 and none in the works. Bargs playing well for 13 games does not count. JV is a question mark.
A team/city that's held in poor regard by other players
Other teams in our division improving and/or having deep pockets
A fan base that overestimates its chances/talent, underestimates the talent on other teams, and always hopes for next year
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Copywryter wrote: View PostI'm pessimistic because there isn't much reason for optimism.
The team as constituted:
Bargs: an incredibly skilled big who is defensively unreliable and a historically poor rebounder
DeRozan: a hard-working kid with big ups who can't really shoot from range and can't get his shot off against above-average defenders
Amir: a great 7th or 8th guy
JV: a rookie center, who, even if he pans out, will need 3-5 years to develop. Haven't seen too much from the kid yet.
Weak at the 3.
An above average (10-15th ranked) point guard and trade bait backup
This lineup scares no one.
Other reasons for dismay:
An improved but still very average bench
A GM who clearly doesn't have a plan. His pursuit of Nash showed as much.
No all-star talent since CB4 and none in the works. Bargs playing well for 13 games does not count. JV is a question mark.
A team/city that's held in poor regard by other players
Other teams in our division improving and/or having deep pockets
A fan base that overestimates its chances/talent, underestimates the talent on other teams, and always hopes for next year
Developing and contributing are used interchangeably and JV in my estimation will contribute big time this season. It may take him 3-5 seasons to reach his max potential/ development but putting it your way sounds like he'll be an araujo until the magic year 3,4 or 5.
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