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pillowmint wrote: View PostGood post Ceez, I'm not a fan of Bargs, but it's only 12 games in let's relax on the guy. If we can trade him...awesome, if not then hopefully Casey figures out how to utilize him better. I'm also waiting for Lowry to be the voice in the locker room, I get the sense that he might already be (looking at the way Demar has been playing) but sometimes it takes some adjusting from the rest of the team. I'm loving Lowry and hope we're not rushing him back too soon.
Lastly, keep in mind all these games (with the exception of OKC) have been soooooo close, with a little more experience from both players and coaching we'll be able to close these suckers out as long as the refs let us.
Let's go Raps!
He's not going to magically clue in at the quarter point of his seventh season or whatever. It's just not going to happen. The time for patience and the wait-and-see approach have long passed.
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Totally agree. And this is the reason why i keep pushing that the refs are not giving us a break rather than "if they did this or that it wouldnt have come down to the refs controlling the game". It's because we can see that the effort (from some, not all) is there. I think the first 12 games we've seen big improvements from Demar and Ed, our expectations being satisfied by Lowry and our rooks are slowly getting into the thick of things.
IMO, the goal now is to move Bargnani and Calderon. Its only now i realize, what one of the biggest Bargnani haters said here before (i forgot his handle, but he got driven away from this forum, hehehe), this team will not win games, if this team will continue to compensate for what Bargnani cannot do. I've disputed this numerous times and in different ways, but it's fairly obvious now. And its the same with Calderon. Defense is the issue.
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ceez wrote: View PostPositives:
- Flying V is better out the gate than i thought he'd be and he's getting better every game
- Ross seems to finally be settling down and getting confidence. He's shown real potential at both ends of the floor
- Lowry is awesome
- Amir AND Ed have stepped their game up this year
- Calderon is playing the best ball of his career
- Demar is making all of us eat our words. I couldn't be happier. He's rebounding, shooting better from 3, has handles and i swear ive seen him make some beautiful assists. He's blowing me away.
Slow progress better than no progress
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If someone had said at the start of the season that JV would have 3 Double Doubles by game 12, averaging just 20 minutes a game, or that in games 10, 11, and 12 he would have averaged 9 rb and 11 pts I would have bet money against them. But there you are.
By mid-season Casey could actually be running plays for him. More than happy about that.
Lowry has been all that he was advertised to be, and more.
DeMar is playing better than expected, IMO, and no reason to believe that will change. Now, if only Fields corrected medical problem allows him to find his shot...It would be nice to have his D on the floor, but McGuire has been a surprise as well. Even showing a little ofence.
Extremely frustrated about coming so close to winning only to see the games slip out of reach. Still looking forward to the rest of the season.
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Puffer wrote: View PostIf someone had said at the start of the season that JV would have 3 Double Doubles by game 12, averaging just 20 minutes a game, or that in games 10, 11, and 12 he would have averaged 9 rb and 11 pts I would have bet money against them. But there you are.
By mid-season Casey could actually be running plays for him. More than happy about that.
Lowry has been all that he was advertised to be, and more.
DeMar is playing better than expected, IMO, and no reason to believe that will change. Now, if only Fields corrected medical problem allows him to find his shot...It would be nice to have his D on the floor, but McGuire has been a surprise as well. Even showing a little ofence.
Extremely frustrated about coming so close to winning only to see the games slip out of reach. Still looking forward to the rest of the season.
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ebrian wrote: View PostThis team has performed better than I expected so far. I didn't have them down for their 3rd win until the game against Detroit on Friday. If we win that one we'll be twice as good as I thought!
It's fine to say that the sky is falling at 3-9 but prior to each game, how many did you think we would win that we didn't? Last night may have seemed like one but those were not the 7 win bobcats, they were the >.500 bobcats. Almost a full quarter of our losses (small sample size excitement!) were the results of a final shot bouncing around the rim before falling in. Lots of close games but we can't close out fourth quarters? More than half of our starting line up have never played together before. It's going to take some time before they have the cohesion to close things out. So, yes, take a deep breath. But break out your steel umbrellas if we lose to Detroit**
** there we go..that's part of the problem. Here I am thinking that we are vastly superior to a team that has one less win than us. A team that started the season with seven games against the west. A team that beat the Celtics and sixers. I take back my optimism
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Jclaw wrote: View Post++++1
It's fine to say that the sky is falling at 3-9 but prior to each game, how many did you think we would win that we didn't? Last night may have seemed like one but those were not the 7 win bobcats, they were the >.500 bobcats. Almost a full quarter of our losses (small sample size excitement!) were the results of a final shot bouncing around the rim before falling in. Lots of close games but we can't close out fourth quarters? More than half of our starting line up have never played together before. It's going to take some time before they have the cohesion to close things out. So, yes, take a deep breath. But break out your steel umbrellas if we lose to Detroit**
** there we go..that's part of the problem. Here I am thinking that we are vastly superior to a team that has one less win than us. A team that started the season with seven games against the west. A team that beat the Celtics and sixers. I take back my optimism
The bad teams are improving at a faster rate than Toronto. Dunlap deserves all kinds of credit for motivating that team. There is no doubt he has them overachieving. But at the same time he has definitely got the team buying in to the plan. Wait a second, that sounds familiar...... from last year.
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Glass half empty: everything is going so well, many things much better than expected, yet we're still 3-9.
I'd be almost happier if nothing was going right yet, then we'd know we were losing but not for a lack of talent.9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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