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Matt52 wrote: View Postyou are right to be skeptical in my opinion. most of the ideas in this thread are not likely or possible.
first of all the constant whining of keep Calderon is a continued bewilderment. raps are 1-16 vs plus.500 teams.
jv, Ross have potential but most potential becomes average at best.... but the potential for more is there. C I the hardest position to fill and jv appears to be a starting C long term. Ross is the 3 and D I have dreamed of. he looks like a solid 6th man and if he can get a handle maybe starter.
As for dd, ab returning lottery picks..... lol.... in 2014 lolx2. The raps would have to take on some horrible contracts for that to happen and even then unlikely. the right to swap picks would also be good and more likely IMO.
2014 is not about just wiggins. a lot can change in 1.5 years but there are a number of solid sf in 14 draft.
anything that can add picks is a good thing. I am not sure the raps have the assets to get t done. they certainly don't have the financial flexibility which is why I am ready for a new GM.
btw I am super envious of what Cleveland has done.
I read that somewhere too...I was surprised but then I realized that with Calderon putting his "stamp" on the team and offense over the course of this season I shouldnt have been
Overall that's what I was thinking. IMO, I think that we should continue to try and move calderon and bargs (obviously i think DD should go to but thats not happening) and get picks in return.
Im a little more optimistic with the guys we have though, Matt. I think that Lowry, ED, Ross and JV is a very serviceable lineup. If you let them mature and provide that go to wing scorer, we can be a good team in a few years.
a package with calderon should be able to get us something valuable in return, even if it has bargnani in it. Getting rid of these two guys will change the culture of the team and the atmosphere in the lockeroom, I believe, for the better
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Nilanka wrote: View PostI agree that winning trumps everything. But how do you start winning without good players? How do you get good players if your assets aren't desired in trades?
The draft really is the best option right now.
You get there by some combination of drafting well, signing good and average players to great contracts (as in, cheap for the team and staggered well so that you have flexibility), maintaining cap space to acquire assets in trades from teams that are shedding them, and luck.
So even if you can't attract the best players, instead of jumping the gun at the start of free agency to overpay Fields, being patient and waiting to sign the second tier guys to solid contracts that make them trade assets is the way to go. Even if you can't draft the best players, even accumulating enough young guys with potential helps. Even if you can't sign anyone, holding the cap space to absorb other people's players can help.
There are many things to do. Stop overspending on mediocrity would be a great start.
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special1 wrote: View PostI personally think this is a MYTH.. Look at the Blue Jays as an example from the early 90's and the raps from Vince Carter earlier days.....I firmly believe that "If you win - they will come." MOST players around the league have played here by now (as a visitor) and know that Toronto is an amazing city - one of the best in the world.
Unfortunately, our management sucks right now....our team sucks right now....Why would someone come here to waste their career playing with a losing team????
We cannot attract free agents BECAUSE our team sucks....plain and simple.
Unfortunately Colangelo has taken this mantra to whole new level, drawing a bunch of bad players with the little big money we have left.your pal,
ebrian
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