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Have we entered an alternate universe? Are the Raptors buyers?
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The only way im doing a gasol deal is if its bargs and klezia gone... I would much prefere a 3 way deal with minny and getting back pieces like Luke R, D-Will and or (in whatever combination) pekovic. Also i would be happier to deal bargs for something like okafor and a pick or in some way if we could get our hands on Josh Smith, the thing that worries me is him leaving at end of year which would be very possible, if he would sign to a realistic non max contract before the deal was made that could be a major major move for the Raps. Also wouldnt mind any of Utahs bigs (mill sap, favours, jefferson.) Jefferson would intrigue me the most for two reasons one, i think we need a true C which he would provide and two he is coming off the books at the end of the year meaning we could resign for a lower contract next year if he worked out (debatable, not very athletic not enough ball for him as well possibly.) Or that leaves us with 10 mill coming off books to allow BC to do whatever with, maybe attempt to sign a josh smith or paul milsap?
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I'm not crazy about Gasol, basically because he's old, on the decline and would likely only be in Toronto for a year-and-half. I agree that the team needs another PF, ideally a veteran under 29, but I'm not convinced Gasol is worth the investment (unless the deal is Bargnani + Kleiza + Anderson + 1/2/3 2nd round picks for him).
I'd love to add a young PF to the talented young core we are developing:
C: Valanciunas (20)
PF: Johnson (25)
SF: Gay (26), Fields (24)
SG: DeRozan (23), Ross (21)
PG: Lowry (26)
If we could acquire a veteran backup PG before the deadline and/or sign one in the offseason, in addition to finding that elusive PF (Millsap is 27), this team's 9-man rotation would be set and be able to grow together for years!
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FoxMachine wrote: View PostI do agree with you, but I also think he is coming off as a little desperate to trade him even tho he said that which cant help but lower whatever value he has.. he has said he is for sure not done making moves and everyone in the league knows how bad he wants to get rid of him.. they all probably feel like they can control the negotiations.. but who knows
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I think I would rather some depth then shoot for someone like Gasol. I feel we should see if Amir is our PF for the next while or not.
I'd like a deal between Milwaukee and Raps:
Raps get- Ekpe Udoh, Sam Dalembert
Mil get- Bargnani, Anderson
or even something with the Pistons
Kleiza& Anderson for someone like Maxiell
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joey_hesketh wrote: View PostI voted no, based on the fact that the Lakers will likely ask for something I wouldn't want to give up. If we could nab Gasol for a deal similar to Bargnani, AA and Kleiza then I'd do it .. but I don't see why the Lakers would.
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Checkines wrote: View PostKleiza& Anderson for someone like Maxiell
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FoxMachine wrote: View PostI do agree with you, but I also think he is coming off as a little desperate to trade him even tho he said that which cant help but lower whatever value he has.. he has said he is for sure not done making moves and everyone in the league knows how bad he wants to get rid of him.. they all probably feel like they can control the negotiations.. but who knows
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joey_hesketh wrote: View PostWhy go after anyone close to a Maxiell? Amir has proven to be, at the very least, a very good option for first-big off the bench, and I can't see Maxiell being much different than the ED/Amir combo that everyone got sick of. AND we've got Acy .. who is going to be Maxiell in 2 years. Haha
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Matt52 wrote: View PostYou may be right but BC/Raps have had major wood for Gay for years. It worked out in the end, I think.
At the same token, Memphis has hinted getting rid of gay for a long time now but seemed much less desperate than BC does now. I would argue that we controlled those negotiations pretty well considering what we gave up to get Gay
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thoughts on something like this, of course depending on a resign or not and the $value...
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bkc97np
Also maybe an ATL pick going to PHX
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CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View PostI'm not crazy about Gasol, basically because he's old, on the decline and would likely only be in Toronto for a year-and-half. I agree that the team needs another PF, ideally a veteran under 29, but I'm not convinced Gasol is worth the investment (unless the deal is Bargnani + Kleiza + Anderson + 1/2/3 2nd round picks for him).
I'd love to add a young PF to the talented young core we are developing:
C: Valanciunas (20)
PF: Johnson (25)
SF: Gay (26), Fields (24)
SG: DeRozan (23), Ross (21)
PG: Lowry (26)
If we could acquire a veteran backup PG before the deadline and/or sign one in the offseason, in addition to finding that elusive PF (Millsap is 27), this team's 9-man rotation would be set and be able to grow together for years!
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I still very much want Pau Gasol on this team. Regardless of how bad he is playing this year, he is still a top 5 PF and has one of the highest basketball IQ's in the league. We'd instantly be a legitimate playoff team if we were to acquire him, even if it means losing Demar.
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Checkines wrote: View PostI think I would rather some depth then shoot for someone like Gasol. I feel we should see if Amir is our PF for the next while or not.
I'd like a deal between Milwaukee and Raps:
Raps get- Ekpe Udoh, Sam Dalembert
Mil get- Bargnani, Anderson
or even something with the Pistons
Kleiza& Anderson for someone like Maxiell
Also, while I have nothing against Maxiell, it's a pretty lame trade. His contract is expiring, but does anyone believe Kleiza won't be amnestied? And why would Detroit want LK, since they can't amnesty him....Also, Maxiell is basically an older Quincy Acy. It would give depth, but really, why not just give Acy minutes if you're going to play an undersized 4 who liked to dunk.
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