I agree in that the entire team is really bad. But I wish we'd stop comparing DD to Bargnani since DD is a Sophmore and Bargs is a 5 year pro.
But I like a challenge. So I took a look at some stats to see if your argument holds water. We do suck as a whole as a team, so the fact that Bargnani played a large majority of our games doesn't help your cause, however, I believe the best way to determine how the team does when Bargnani is not on the floor is to check out 82games.com.
The interesting thing is that there are 20 rotations listed. Bargnani is listed in 14 rotations, (so 70% of them), however Bargnani is *not* in the top rotation, and is also not in the 3rd and 6th rotations. So as you can see the team does relatively better without Bargnani in the line up, at least from these statistics.
Do also note that both Amir and DD are in 6 of the 7 rotations. And both are in the top rotation.
So you have a point here, since DD is below Bargnani, but just by a little. Again I point out that he's a Sophmore. Evans was a surprise to me, but as you can also see Amir is near the top. That guy is a big asset for our team.
Ultimately though I still think our team could do better without Bargnani. Our offense will take a hit, but I think defense is especially more important in a big then a small. Most importantly though we need to move people who don't play hard both ways all the time, and just by watching the games this year, I can say that Bargnani just doesn't have that quality in him to play big most of the time. Again if DD continues to become inconsistent (especially on D) after his 23rd birthday, then I will be one of the first in line to say he needs to go. The same can be said about Davis too.. nobody is untouchable on this team.
love the research and analysis of bargs game
unforntuantly with bargnani its just as simple as nsn
Ask yourself this, if you had to choose between 1 guy to be your focus on offense, night in, night out, hypothetically, would you want Bargs, or DD. I think Bargs' skillset is vastly superior and more dynamic and varied.
Bargs has already proven he can score as the main focus of the other teams defense. He's glued to and doubled every game not to mention first time in his career handling such defensive pressure yet what does he do? He manages to represent tdot top 15 scorer in NBA.
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Bargs has already proven he can score as the main focus of the other teams defense. He's glued to and doubled every game not to mention first time in his career handling such defensive pressure yet what does he do? He manages to represent tdot top 15 scorer in NBA.
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Bargs has already proven he is a liability on defense. He manages to be a big reason why the Raptors are last in the league in defense.
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Funny though...when Bargs DOESNT play..the rest of the team doesnt show up either. Amir and DD included. So what does that mean?
You should acknowledge though, that this is not an excuse for Bargnani to put in half-assed effort most nights. This is the bone of contention.
Bargnani is talented, and if he only would put in effort MOST games (understandable that 5-10 games lack of effort in the year...and not the other way around) then he would truly be a beast. We have seen the games where he puts in a full effort his defense is passable to good, he rebounds, he scores, AND he energizes the team. IF ONLY he would do this on a consistent basis he would be a completely different (stellar/all-star) player. What is frustrating is he does not maintain this consistency and that the lacking is purely effort, not skill. I would venture to say that if he simply put in this effort, 90% of the haters would flip and support him, including me.
You should acknowledge though, that this is not an excuse for Bargnani to put in half-assed effort most nights. This is the bone of contention.
Bargnani is talented, and if he only would put in effort MOST games (understandable that 5-10 games lack of effort in the year...and not the other way around) then he would truly be a beast. We have seen the games where he puts in a full effort his defense is passable to good, he rebounds, he scores, AND he energizes the team. IF ONLY he would do this on a consistent basis he would be a completely different (stellar/all-star) player. What is frustrating is he does not maintain this consistency and that the lacking is purely effort, not skill. I would venture to say that if he simply put in this effort, 90% of the haters would flip and support him, including me.
How do you evaluate effort? If a guy plays through injuries and illnesses, even if his #'s arent as high, at least he played, and didnt whine about it like CB4 would have done. Lots of days I go to work when I'm sick, and have trouble putting in the best effort, but at least I go and try.
Considering that most seniors don't even enter the league until 22 or 23 I would have to disagree with you. Considering that DeMar has only been out of high school for three years and has made three successful big leaps I would tend to think his growth potential is high.
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High School to college freshman ---> Success
College to NBA rookie ---> Success
NBA Rookie to impact player ---> Success
Next season I predict
Impact player to go to scorer (20PPG) ---> Success
I debate your Nba rookie>impact player
DD has never taken over a game, demanded double teams, or turned the tides so much to secure a win
Bargs has already proven he can score as the main focus of the other teams defense. He's glued to and doubled every game not to mention first time in his career handling such defensive pressure yet what does he do? He manages to represent tdot top 15 scorer in NBA.
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DD has never taken over a game, demanded double teams, or turned the tides so much to secure a win
he is a good player, NOT and impact player
I never said "go to scorer". That's next year. Multipaul, the problem you're having is you think of "impact" as scoring and nothing else. This is why you're the only one on here defending Bargnani to the better end.
DeMar is an impact player. He's an efficient scorer and he's the only Raptors who is honestly trying to get to the basket consistently and draw contact. Doing something well that no one else on your team does is creating an impact.
I never said "go to scorer". That's next year. Multipaul, the problem you're having is you think of "impact" as scoring and nothing else. This is why you're the only one on here defending Bargnani to the better end.
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