bargs in the strongest n best player in the nba. Leave him alone!
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tbihis wrote: View Postthen trade for Gallinari and change the team's name to italian stallions.“The saving of our world from pending doom will come, not through the complacent adjustment of the conforming majority, but through the creative maladjustment of a nonconforming minority.” - Martin Luther King
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Sorry, but I don't mean disrespect. Messina quit Real Madrid because his team stopped playing hard. Does he really have the patience with the likes of Andrea? Really?“The saving of our world from pending doom will come, not through the complacent adjustment of the conforming majority, but through the creative maladjustment of a nonconforming minority.” - Martin Luther King
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Let's move this over to the ginormous everything Bargnani fan thread already. Did we hit 3,500 posts yet?“The saving of our world from pending doom will come, not through the complacent adjustment of the conforming majority, but through the creative maladjustment of a nonconforming minority.” - Martin Luther King
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Expecations Expectations and more Expecations
There have been ever wavering opinions on Andrea’s expectations, the teams expectations, and expectations relative to other players on the team and even Andrea’s expectations from previous seasons.
Here a brief objective outline from end of 2010 when bosh left up until present. For Bargnani critics would you care to explain how Bargnani has failed to meet expectations taken into account the circumstances, the talent level, the expectations of the team and more importantly his performance.
Team Circumstances Summer leading to Pre Season:
The franchise player left.
No significant offensive or defensive players were brought in from the previous year
This was a rebuilding year and a chance to give young players significant chance to develop
Many experts including lots on this site even accurately predicted a LOSING season claiming 20-25 wins.
Andrea’s Expectations leading into season
Offense
Try helping overcome offensive void left by Christopher Bosh Surpassed Expectation
Rely less on three points shooting Above Expectation
Improve post scoring Met Expectation
Make teammates better Met Expectation
Become primary scorer Above Expectation
Defense
Become a better man to man defender Met Expectation
Become a better Rebounder below Expectation
Become a Better help defender Below Expectation
Show more desire and focus on the defensive end Below Expectation
During Season
Strong individual performances include
41 point game against Knicks
38 point game against heat
35 point game in triple OT thriller against nets
Great Accomplishment
Scored 20+ in 60% of his games
Team Accomplishments
Growth and Development of young players Demar, Ed and company
Big victories against teams such as Orlando, Boston and OKC
Outcome
Missed Playoffs
22 Wins
One of the worst defensive teams in the league
Experts and critics on this site were bang on. Expectations were so low and Raptors as expected missed the playoffs and lost almost 75% of their games. Some major bargnani critics even brag about how they were so close to prediciting Toronto’s record.
Which begs the question? If team expectations were SO LOW…
Will the Bargnani critics care to explain why expectations of Bargnani were SO HIGH THIS SEASON?
WAS HE SUPPOSE TO BE OUR DEFENSIVE ANCOR?
WAS HE SUPPOSE TO BE A TOP 10 SCORER?
WAS HE SUPPOSE TO BE ALL AROUND GOOD LIKE DWIGHT HOWARD?
OR JUST REGGIE EVANS GOOD?
OR A MONTA ELLIS SCORING AND JUST BOOZER REBOUNDING GOOD?
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DunkinDerozan wrote: View PostDefense
Become a better man to man defender Met Expectation
Become a better Rebounder below Expectation
Become a Better help defender Below Expectation
Show more desire and focus on the defensive end Below Expectation
Will the Bargnani critics care to explain why expectations of Bargnani were SO HIGH THIS SEASON?
1st) Posters on this site, specifically Multipaul constantly shouted from the mountains how GOOD bargs was going to be once he was freed from the chains of Chris Bosh. I expected him to do better because a lot of people here on this site said he would, with A LOT of conviction.
2nd) Without a "franchise player" Barg's became the defacto franchise player and thus he was expected to "up" his game.
In closing, I highlighted areas of his game which we both agree he under-achieved. Some of us feel like those areas where he underachieved are VERY important and he can't/won't improve on them in the future than he is not an invaluable piece.Last edited by ezz_bee; Tue Apr 26, 2011, 06:55 PM."They're going to have to rename the whole conference after us: Toronto Raptors 2014-2015 Northern Conference Champions" ~ ezzbee Dec. 2014
"I guess I got a little carried away there" ~ ezzbee Apr. 2015
"We only have one rule on this team. What is that rule? E.L.E. That's right's, E.L.E, and what does E.L.E. stand for? EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY. Right there up on the wall, because this isn't just a basketball team, this is a lifestyle. ~ Jackie Moon
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ezz_bee wrote: View PostI think expectations were high for two reasons
1st) Posters on this site, specifically Multipaul constantly shouted from the mountains how GOOD bargs was going to be once he was freed from the chains of Chris Bosh. I expected him to do better because a lot of people here on this site said he would, with A LOT of conviction.
2nd) Without a "franchise player" Barg's became the defacto franchise player and thus he was expected to "up" his game.
In closing, I highlighted areas of his game which we both agree he under-achieved. Some of us feel like those areas where he underachieved are VERY important and he can't/won't improve on them in the future than he is not an invaluable piece.
why were YOUR expecations of Andrea so high, if the team expecations were so low. Don't just base expecations on other people's wishful thinking.
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DunkinDerozan wrote: View Postyou fail to answer any important question. multipaul as I admire Bargnani's game and its not common place to hope that a player you like performs amazing. Doesn't mean we hold a gun to his head and issue an ultimatum ,, score 25 grab 14 boards or else..
why were YOUR expecations of Andrea so high, if the team expecations were so low. Don't just base expecations on other people's wishful thinking.
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