Poor guy indeed... http://www.nba.com/video/channels/pl...ound_bosh.nba/
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Tim W. wrote: View PostYou have to realize that these are voted on by the media, and some of them see some players once or twice a year. Bargnani averaged 30 ppg and 8 rpg in 3 games against New Jersey. He also averaged 29 ppg against Miami. If you see him explode against the team you're covering a couple of times you're going to have a different view than someone who's watched him play all year. It's also why he might have a little higher trade value than some think.
Another issue is that Bargnani plays center, of which there aren't a whole lot of good ones. It's also why Bosh received the same number of votes. There are a lot more good forwards out there than centers.
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jk1m wrote: View PostPoor guy indeed... http://www.nba.com/video/channels/pl...ound_bosh.nba/
i guess bosh didnt fit in the picture, literally. hehe
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ceez wrote: View PostBosh is basically a glorified role player. A role player paid a insane amount of money.Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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Tim W. wrote: View PostI know a lot of Raptor fans hate the guy, but let's not minimize his abilities. On a team with two MVP candidates, he's a role player, but he's still a 6 time All Star, a one time All NBA 2nd Team selection and one of the two best players that ever played for the Raptors.
"On a team with two MVP candidates, he's a 18+ and 8+ role player who is still among the top 20 in free throws drawn despite being third fiddle."
I know ripping Bosh makes a lot of people feel better about him leaving, but honestly, if he really was such a scrub, then why are so many people still upset? You should be elated, no?
And enough with the, and I paraphrase, "Bosh can never carry a team to success." Outside of maybe Lebron, how many top players actually do that? If you look at many of the top teams, their franchise players have at least 3 teammates who would have been immediate starters on any of our Bosh teams. Even the Kobe-led Lakers only managed 34, 42 and 45 win seasons after Shaq left and before Pau arrived. Only a Raptors fan would insist on Bosh carrying the team to earn his salary, when many of the top teams are built around several high-salaried players.Last edited by Quixotic; Fri May 13, 2011, 02:59 AM.
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Bargs is better than every center except howard.http://websitedweeb.userboard.net-Introduce your website. No signup required!
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Tim W. wrote: View PostI know a lot of Raptor fans hate the guy, but let's not minimize his abilities. On a team with two MVP candidates, he's a role player, but he's still a 6 time All Star, a one time All NBA 2nd Team selection and one of the two best players that ever played for the Raptors.
anyways, you failed to mention that while he was getting all these recognitions, the raptors only managed to make the playoffs twice. and while he was getting all these recognitions, no other superstar was on the raptors team. there were no legit scorers playing alongside him. he was averaging 17 shots a game, and that doesnt even count how many touches he gets in a game. so for him to be the focal point of the offense in every game, i think that was what was expected of him, and he delivered, i give him that, but he is a glorified role player because when carter was still with the team, he was basically playing as a role player and its more evident now playing alongside james and wade.
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Quixotic wrote: View Post+1, though I need to make a correction for you:
"On a team with two MVP candidates, he's a 18+ and 8+ role player who is still among the top 20 in free throws drawn despite being third fiddle."
I know ripping Bosh makes a lot of people feel better about him leaving, but honestly, if he really was such a scrub, then why are so many people still upset? You should be elated, no?
And enough with the, and I paraphrase, "Bosh can never carry a team to success." Outside of maybe Lebron, how many top players actually do that? If you look at many of the top teams, their franchise players have at least 3 teammates who would have been immediate starters on any of our Bosh teams. Even the Kobe-led Lakers only managed 34, 42 and 45 win seasons after Shaq left and before Pau arrived. Only a Raptors fan would insist on Bosh carrying the team to earn his salary, when many of the top teams are built around several high-salaried players.
im not upset with him leaving, im upset with him as a person.
well, you just proved that he actually cant carry a team. with those win numbers, he indeed cant carry a team. and so does kobe. but the difference is, you put kobe with other superstars and he still dominates. you put bosh with other superstars, he's a role player. lebron dominated in cleveland, and you put him with wade he still dominated. wade dominated with shaq in miami, not with lebron, he still dominates games.
and about salaries, if you were the raptors, would you pay a guy 116 million to average 18-8 a night? i guess you would say that if he was with the raps, you pay him 16mil and he's avg 20-10. so you get another superstar in and he becomes a role player. he's not worth his salary anymore.
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i'm done with hating bosh for how he left, and the douchebag he was... the past is the past.. leave it there
he still looks like vultureman from the thundercats..
and i LOATHE the Mutants of Plundarr with a passion.
so F$%& chris bosh
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