Goddamn it, I thought it was actual NBA teams interested in him.
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At least he's going to be busy playing ball and improving his game. The way Casey has been talking Bargnani is going no where and its more likely for Ed or Amir to leave town.... Just imagine, we're in the Twilight Zone... Or at least the Raptors organization pre-Colangelo begging for his job and saying everything the fans wanted to hear.
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albertan_10 wrote: View Posthe sucked today against germany. he didn't even start for the italians
Ofcourse the Italian team probably doesn't have a $10 mil contract and 1st overrall selection they feel necessary to justify either, so maybe that doesn't cloud their judgement.
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GarbageTime wrote: View PostIf I'm not mistaken he didn't start against Serbia either.... does the Italian team know something the Raps organization doesn't? Like say, he'd be best used a 6th/7th man off the bench who got minutes dependent on match ups and how well he is playing that game?
Ofcourse the Italian team probably doesn't have a $10 mil contract and 1st overrall selection they feel necessary to justify either, so maybe that doesn't cloud their judgement.
albertan_10 wrote: View Posthe sucked today against germany. he didn't even start for the italians
But Bargnani played good post defense, so saying he sucked is pushing. Defense is what kept Italy in the game (and of course bad offensive execution by Germany as well).
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Soft Euro wrote: View PostEven though he didn't start, he played at the end of the game and played heavy minutes (second on the team with 30 minutes). So, starting is not because they know something or they think he's not a starter, it's just tactics.
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GarbageTime wrote: View Postand I never stated otherwise.... and its exactly what the Raps have been lacking with him. Using him "tactically" rather than just guarantee him minutes and a starting job.
Btw, not starting for Italy is different from using him 'tactically' as a way not to guarantee him minutes and a starting job. It's just and only that, not starting, but being one of the main pieces, just as it was with Ginobili and the Spurs.Last edited by Soft Euro; Fri Sep 2, 2011, 12:37 PM.
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albertan_10 wrote: View Posthe sucked today against germany. he didn't even start for the italians
H2H vs. Kaman
H2H vs. Dirk
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Soft Euro wrote: View PostTrue, except that we did not really have an alternative at center to give the starting job. Having Ajinca going up against the starting bigs of other teams is not easy to defend as a coach. Otherwise Amir Johnson would have been the starting center if Bargnani was coming of the bench and we want him as PF as well (maybe with some minutes as center, preferably against the second unit).
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GarbageTime wrote: View Postyet Bargnani didn't often guard the opposing C anyways. He was (generally) guarding the weaker check, whether that be a PF or C.
I did research the level of his opponents quite thoroughly and posted the results about a month ago (they can now be found in the 'everything bargnani' thread. On the basis of that it's hard to argue that he guarded the weaker player, as the level of his opponents was right around the average of the league. Until someone does a similar research on the opponents of the Raptors PF when Bargnani was on the floor as well this is not a proven theory or 'fact'. My vacation is over, so it's pretty low on my list activities.
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