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“As a captain, I played furiously. I drew a lot of fouls, but I brought everything I had to every practice and to every game. I left everything on the court because I simply wanted the team to win”
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Spencer Hawes: he's basically bargs without the drive
Andris Biedrins : Solid defensive presence. If GS sheds more salary we can pick him up with our TPE.
Samuel Dalembert: See above. Cheaper and shorter Biedrins basically.
Emeka Okafor: Sure. These 3 are basically in the same mold anyway.
LaMarcus Aldridge: Not known for defense
Austin Daye : Not a C
Marcus Camby : Not going anywhere
Nene : Not going anywhere
Hasheem Thabeet : BYC makes trading from him unlikely
Greg Oden : Not going anywhere
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“As a captain, I played furiously. I drew a lot of fouls, but I brought everything I had to every practice and to every game. I left everything on the court because I simply wanted the team to win”
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For Europhiles - How Would You Compare Bargnani To Motiejunas?
For those that know the FIBA world and its players.
How would you compare Donatas Motiejunas to Bargnani?
On the link below the writer says thata Montiejunas is more comparable to Dirk than he is to Bargnani
What do you Europhiles think?
Center/power forward Donatas Motiejunas pulled out of this year's NBA draft at the last minute, but is probably a lock to go in the lottery next year. He draws comparisons to the Raptors Andrea Bargnani, or ideally to Dirk Nowitzki.
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James Ballswin (Realizar) wrote: View PostHow many of you actually know who "Donatas Motijunas" is AND have seen him play in a minimum of 50+ games to respectfully respond to Buddah's OP?
What I do know is that a number of posters here are making a big deal of Bargs play this summer in Europe by either showing video of it and/or commenting on that video.
So it seems reasonable to think that at least some if not the majority of those who are commenting favorably on Bargnani's play this summer are familiar enough with comparable players in Europe, who at least from the article I linked Montijunas might be one of them.Avatar: Riverboat Coffee House 134 Yorkville Ave. billboard of upcoming entertainers - Circa 1960s
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bargs is trash. he might be good playing on teams finishing between 26-30, but for playoff teams he shouldn't even be coming off the bench.Last edited by vinnie_paz; Mon Aug 23, 2010, 04:13 PM.
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James Ballswin (Realizar) wrote: View PostHow many of you actually know who "Donatas Motijunas" is AND have seen him play in a minimum of 50+ games to respectfully respond to Buddah's OP?
Best Case: Andrea Bargnani
Could be a better rebounder than Bargs from what I've seen (stressing the could part), and has some interesting post moves, but he definately needs to get some pounds to try them in the nba. Hope to hear from some more knowledgeable guys.
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Up until the coaching change Motiejunas was looking more and more confident about putting his skill-level on display. Repesa doesn’t seem to be holding him back early on, already giving him 31 minutes in their EuroCup Top 16 debut (which they lost at home). The Lithuanian responded with 17 points (7/9 FG), 5 rebounds, 4 steals and 3 assists.
With added experience underneath his belt, and a growing role, Motiejunas is quickly emerging as one of the most versatile big men in the Italian league. The place that shows up the most is on the perimeter, where Motiejunas is showing outstanding potential taking his man off the dribble in creative fashion, often spinning his way through the lane for some incredibly impressive finishes.
Able to go left or right, Motiejunas is a nightmare for most big men to match up with at his size, as he possesses an excellent first step to go along with strong ball-handling skills and terrific body control maneuvering his way towards the basket.
He’s getting to the free throw line at a very good rate, 6.4 times per-40 minutes pace adjusted, which ranks him in the top-10 in the Italian league amongst qualified players in that category.
Something to keep in mind is that his ability to create scoring opportunities out of isolation situations will be far more useful in the faster paced and more loosely called realm of the NBA. Italian league refs are notorious for being incredibly quick to call traveling violations (particularly on rookies like Motiejunas), and there were a number of whistles that we saw on film that would not have been ruled as such in the NBA.
From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/...#ixzz0xShUnEdT
http://www.draftexpress.comOn the downside, Motiejunas’ jumper has not been falling very regularly at all, as he’s converted just 8 of the 27 jump-shots he’s attempted this season (6/21 3P) according to Synergy Sports Technology, and 46/76 free throw attempts, good for 60%. Looking at his shooting mechanics and the terrific touch he displays around the basket, you have to imagine that it’s only a matter of time until his shots start falling from the perimeter.
While Motiejunas leaves an incredibly strong impression with the talent he’s displaying on the offensive end, his work defensively and on the glass can’t be described as anything less than worrisome. Possessing average fundamentals on this end of the floor, Motiejunas is somewhat of a liability when attempting to defend on the perimeter. He’s extremely upright in his stance and shows very little in the ways of hustle or awareness, getting burned repeatedly in the film we took in.
His lack of strength is a major issue, but so is his extremely poor balance, as you regularly see him being knocked to the ground in every game he plays in. He gets pushed around by smaller players fairly often, giving up deep position in the post, and in turn easy baskets.
He remains an incredibly poor defensive rebounder, grabbing just 46 defensive rebounds in 448 total minutes, or one for every 10 minutes he’s on the court. Although rebounds are tougher to come by in Europe than they are in the NCAA, it’s tough to ignore the fact that he ranks amongst the worst defensive rebounders in his own league on a per-minute basis.
From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/...#ixzz0xShxLpQY
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vinnie_paz wrote: View Postbargs is trash. he might be good playing on teams finishing between 26-30, but for playoff teams he shouldn't even be coming off the bench.
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Nick wrote: View PostThis is such a ridiculous comment. I've seen people in here give their opinion about players around the league who they have probably seen play a max of five times, if that. Your clearly trying to be better then everybody else.
How many of you actually know who "Donatas Motijunas" is AND have seen him play in a minimum of 50+ games to respectfully respond to Buddah's OP?
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This guy looks tons more like YI or Gallo than Bargs or Dirk.... he's clearly a SF in the NBA - too skinny and a good ball handler and only 6'10. Looks fairly athletic but more in the Rudy Fernandez way than a big-man. Yeah I would say Gallo is the best comparison as those post moves will not translate into the NBA game...When Tom Chambers dunks an NBA player gets their hops...
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