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white men can't jump wrote: View PostI'm generally ok with it...we're still going to have issues at PG though. Robinson is an upgrade as a shoot-first PG...but we'd stil only be 2-deep. It would still leave a lot of pressure on Lowry to get people involved, and leave us needing a 3rd stringer...which is obviously better than needing a 2nd stringer though...
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p00ka wrote: View PostYet they want to trade him for a 7' 3 pt shooter that "doesn't play team D well". Hmmmmmm, why does Chicago want to make this trade?
Most of Chicago's perimeter guys including Deng are volume shooters. Andrea, when motivated, can shoot and he might add another dimension to that team in a specific role. If Thibs can't make him do what is needed, I doubt any coach can.
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sleepz wrote: View PostHow? Well, how does Boozer fit a team with high usage players who's main issue has been defence this year?
Boozer doesn't significantly upgrade this team defensively even if Andrea is the player going the other way. He might not blow rotations or be passive defensively but he's still an average to below average defender.
Bulls want to get rid of him because they don't want to pay that contract. And his contract IS large for a player of his productivity.
What's wrong with ending up like Memphis? Top 4-5 seed in the West no?
Most good teams (OKC, Miami, Memphis, SA) spend money on players that help them win, plain and simple. They don't overpay role players. Booozer is not going to impact winning that much on this Raps team.
I would agree with you that Boozer is better than Andrea but how good is he really and what will his impact be on the floor when it comes to w vs l's?
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sleepz wrote: View PostSalary cap considerations and they can win without him.
Most of Chicago's perimeter guys including Deng are volume shooters. Andrea, when motivated, can shoot and he might add another dimension to that team in a specific role. If Thibs can't make him do what is needed, I doubt any coach can.
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p00ka wrote: View PostYet they want to trade him for a 7' 3 pt shooter that "doesn't play team D well". Hmmmmmm, why does Chicago want to make this trade?sleepz wrote: View PostSalary cap considerations and they can win without him.
Most of Chicago's perimeter guys including Deng are volume shooters. Andrea, when motivated, can shoot and he might add another dimension to that team in a specific role. If Thibs can't make him do what is needed, I doubt any coach can.
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take a look at this trade the salary total would be almost equal
the trade here also adresses chicagos 3 pt shooting by sending 2 players
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bqbnkv3
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Interesting Chicago perspective. People do weird things when it comes to the luxury tax.
http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bull...-inflexibility
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Raptorsnz wrote: View PostI feel like Boozer is the sort of player who would complain and hate coming to Toronto... Just a vibe I get from his personality.
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Boozer has 3 years left on his contract, this is considered moderate risk, high reward with his age given (31)
with the toughness he brings Toronto really needed inside since losing Ed Davis.
Either way, boozer has a contract that should keep our core group together
Contracts:
Derozan:5 yrs
Ross:4 yrs
Valanciunas:4 yrs
Amir:4 yrs
Rudy:3 yrs
Fields:3 yrsLast edited by Reyaz123; Thu Feb 7, 2013, 10:52 PM.
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If I get this straight, according to Matt52's post at 6:47 (?), these "talks" aren't active at all. When the "talks" took place, Chicago initiated them, whatever the other details were, BC dismissed the proposal. Now Stein is speculating that maybe the Raps might be interested if the "sweeten the pot" with Nate.
We're talking about someone's speculation that Nate Robinson is suddenly going to change BC's mind by offering Lowry 2.0? Really? As I said in another post, internet NBA writers across the continent know how to up their hits, no matter how real/unreal the bullshit regarding the Raps is.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostWith the injury to Rose, that has a trickle down effect on the rest of the team. Things aren't going to be as easy without a talent like Rose on the floor.
November and December was brutal to start the year but he came around in January.
I am not confident he would regain his old form if traded and, at his salary, anything but his old self is overpaying.
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Update seems aptors are the ones holding back The deal would include Bargnani + "fan favorite" (shudders) JL3 for Boozer and Nate Robinson....
Chicago seems to be the ones pursuing this deal not Toronto as much. Interesting Maybe Boozer and that rookie guard of theirs would do it.
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...-boozer-trade/
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