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special1 wrote: View PostRegardless, many believed that he could take the next step. We were mocked daily.
Really it comes down to taking better shots to go with his obvious improvements in handling the ball.
I'm glad the tunes have changed. Although, even you have to admit that some "just hate his game"....regardless of how well he plays.
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I'm fairly certain the only person who cheered him on while acknowledging the flaws in his game but hopeful and believed he could fix those flaws was Joey.
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Barolt wrote: View PostThey've both been set, uncontested, assisted catch and shoot 3s today. He can hit that one.
Very few players should be taking off-balanced or moving, contested, unassisted 3s.
Good looks off ball movement.
If he is the one getting the set, uncontested, assisted catch and shoot 3s that means he isn't holding the ball to set himself up for a long 2 or hoping to get bailed out by the referee.
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mcHAPPY wrote: View PostI can't speak for anyone else but I know the rebuttals (or mockery - whatever you want to call it) was not about him able to take the next step (that is just a plain disagreement, I provided evidence as to why it wouldn't happen but, damn, I was wrong on that if the majority of this season's play sticks), it was the justification and excuses for his game as he played it - or as Lowry put it, those "dumb ass shots."
I'm fairly certain the only person who cheered him on while acknowledging the flaws in his game but hopeful and believed he could fix those flaws was Joey.
The posts are there for anyone to see.
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SkywalkerAC wrote: View PostThat 3-pointer is coming along. Fuck YES.
But seriously, does this never end? The man will command the max and probably deserves something close to it in this cap world, it'll be an overpay (unless he reverts, which I don't see happening) but I don't see it hindering us too much.
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special1 wrote: View PostI acknowledged that he was far from perfect or a "finished product" as well. I've been saying that he takes way too many tough shots.
The posts are there for anyone to see.
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Wild-ling#1 wrote:Everyone knew DeRozan needed to improve his shot selection and efficiency (and that it would be swell to add a 3pt. shot). I see this as revisionist ... and a truly sweeping denial of rationality and "credit where credit is due".
"Man up", guy.mcHAPPY wrote:Go love yourself, guy.
This is just quite funny (and sadly accurate).
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1.) The people that criticized DeMar were doing so for very valid reasons
a.) People that play a certain way don't usually find basketball jesus, develop a 3 ball, passing, and the notion to drive all in one season.
2.) The people that defended DeMar, even though they may have been right in principal, were making what I consider to be terrible arguments. (I am not commenting on the posters themselves but rather some of the defenses that were come up with)
There are many people like myself who are okay changing an opinion as the facts change or if we learn new information.
Just about everyone like me has acknowledged the turn around and recanted.
Some of us have even gone so far as to say if this 3 - Ball is here to stay we are entering new basketball territory for him and this team.For still frame photograph of me reading the DeRozan thread please refer to my avatar
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mcHAPPY wrote: View PostI can't speak for anyone else but I know the rebuttals (or mockery - whatever you want to call it) was not about him able to take the next step (that is just a plain disagreement, I provided evidence as to why it wouldn't happen but, damn, I was wrong on that if the majority of this season's play sticks), it was the justification and excuses for his game as he played it - or as Lowry put it, those "dumb ass shots."
I'm fairly certain the only person who cheered him on while acknowledging the flaws in his game but hopeful and believed he could fix those flaws was Joey.
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There's really nothing to dislike about what DeRozan's been doing for the past few weeks. I hope it's not just the all-star game motivating him. I hope this is what we'll see for the rest of the season, and years ahead. If so, DeRozan will be worth max without much hesitation.
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I don't really like the way DeRozan played last night. Way too many long jumpers. I think getting hot early got in his head and he started heat-checking, but I guess it didn't really matter in the grand scheme of things because our bench made the Clippers' bench look like a Rec-League team. Hopefully he'll get back to focusing slashing next game, I think sometimes the made threes get in his head a bit.
Speaking of the threes. DeRozan is now shooting 42% on catch and shoot threes this season. Which is the third highest percentage on the team behind Lowry (48%) and Ross (43%). He's taking a little over 1 a game so not really the greatest sample size, but he has taken 50 of them on the season in 42 games.
Thing is he actually has always been able to make catch and shoot threes (not at a great clip mind-you, but a decent one), shooting 34% and 32% on them the past couple years. This year he's definitely looking more confident with them we'll see if it carries over for the rest of the season.
But if he can be a reliable catch and shoot 3 point shooter, it just puts even more holes in the now swiss cheese like argument that he can't fit into a proper team/ball-movement concept.
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JWash wrote: View PostI don't really like the way DeRozan played last night. Way too many long jumpers. I think getting hot early got in his head and he started heat-checking, but I guess it didn't really matter in the grand scheme of things because our bench made the Clippers' bench look like a Rec-League team. Hopefully he'll get back to focusing slashing next game, I think sometimes the made threes get in his head a bit.
Speaking of the threes. DeRozan is now shooting 42% on catch and shoot threes this season. Which is the third highest percentage on the team behind Lowry (48%) and Ross (43%). He's taking a little over 1 a game so not really the greatest sample size, but he has taken 50 of them on the season in 42 games.
Thing is he actually has always been able to make catch and shoot threes (not at a great clip mind-you, but a decent one), shooting 34% and 32% on them the past couple years. This year he's definitely looking more confident with them we'll see if it carries over for the rest of the season.
But if he can be a reliable catch and shoot 3 point shooter, it just puts even more holes in the now swiss cheese like argument that he can't fit into a proper team/ball-movement concept.
But I thing maybe Scola's effort to "chip in" with threes might have helped as well. Whatever the motivation (Kyle has said he teases DD regularly about this), its good to see him sinking them from the corners and above the break, too.
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JWash wrote: View PostI don't really like the way DeRozan played last night. Way too many long jumpers. I think getting hot early got in his head and he started heat-checking, but I guess it didn't really matter in the grand scheme of things because our bench made the Clippers' bench look like a Rec-League team. Hopefully he'll get back to focusing slashing next game, I think sometimes the made threes get in his head a bit.
Speaking of the threes. DeRozan is now shooting 42% on catch and shoot threes this season. Which is the third highest percentage on the team behind Lowry (48%) and Ross (43%). He's taking a little over 1 a game so not really the greatest sample size, but he has taken 50 of them on the season in 42 games.
Thing is he actually has always been able to make catch and shoot threes (not at a great clip mind-you, but a decent one), shooting 34% and 32% on them the past couple years. This year he's definitely looking more confident with them we'll see if it carries over for the rest of the season.
But if he can be a reliable catch and shoot 3 point shooter, it just puts even more holes in the now swiss cheese like argument that he can't fit into a proper team/ball-movement concept.
What I didn't like about his game last night was he was stopping the ball. The difference in ball movement with him on the floor versus off was clearly evident last night, and he's a better player than that.twitter.com/anthonysmdoyle
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Barolt wrote: View PostHe doesn't need to be Ross or Lowry, he just needs to be reliable enough. Which he is this season.
What I didn't like about his game last night was he was stopping the ball. The difference in ball movement with him on the floor versus off was clearly evident last night, and he's a better player than that.
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