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Joey wrote: View PostFair enough, but that doesn't mean that 2 games all of a sudden becomes enough to make ANY sort of conclusions off of. Its 2 games.
The reason for that is pretty easy to guess.twitter.com/anthonysmdoyle
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Barolt wrote: View Posthttp://www.basketball-reference.com/...t=&order_by=ws
The list of guys, ever, who have had 30+ MPG, 25%+ usage and below 30% eFG in the playoffs. Notice how DeMar has the highest usage on that list?
He's not having a bad playoffs. He's having a historically bad playoffs.@Chr1st1anL
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Barolt wrote: View PostYou notice that on that list, none of those guys played more than 5 games in that playoff year?
The reason for that is pretty easy to guess.
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Barolt wrote: View Posthttp://www.basketball-reference.com/...t=&order_by=ws
The list of guys, ever, who have had 30+ MPG, 25%+ usage and below 30% eFG in the playoffs. Notice how DeMar has the highest usage on that list?
He's not having a bad playoffs. He's having a historically bad playoffs.9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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KeonClark wrote: View PostHe's having a historically bad TWO games. Cmon Barolt. If we pulled out different 2 game sample sizes of your boy ross thru out his career, to quote sam Mitchell, we'd see stat lines of: zeeero, zeeero, zeeero.@Chr1st1anL
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KeonClark wrote: View PostHe's having a historically bad TWO games. Cmon Barolt. If we pulled out different 2 game sample sizes of your boy ross thru out his career, to quote sam Mitchell, we'd see stat lines of: zeeero, zeeero, zeeero.
Also, DeMar's our All-Star. Everyone tells me it's about 'We need more All-Stars!!!', so shouldn't we hold those guys to a higher accountability?twitter.com/anthonysmdoyle
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Barolt wrote: View PostThat's completely fair. But I'd guess if you looked for a 2-game stretch of Ross' career where he played 33.5 MPG and averaged 29% usage, that two game stretch doesn't exist.
Barolt wrote:Also, DeMar's our All-Star. Everyone tells me it's about 'We need more All-Stars!!!', so shouldn't we hold those guys to a higher accountability?
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Barolt wrote: View PostThat's completely fair. But I'd guess if you looked for a 2-game stretch of Ross' career where he played 33.5 MPG and averaged 29% usage, that two game stretch doesn't exist.
Also, DeMar's our All-Star. Everyone tells me it's about 'We need more All-Stars!!!', so shouldn't we hold those guys to a higher accountability?Last edited by KeonClark; Wed Apr 20, 2016, 02:53 PM.9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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Joey wrote: View PostGive Ross Demars average usage and I promise you he doesn't put up a 21.5 PER and 9.9WS.
Of course, but that doesn't mean shitting all over the guy when he has a bad couple games while being guarded by a Top-5 Defender in the League.
That other stuff has gone right out the window in the two playoff games so far. Creating for teammates? Not enough of that from DeMar.(8.4 potential assists/game during the season, 6.5 potential assists/game during the playoffs) Defense? He's been awful.
We need the other stuff just as much as we need his scoring.twitter.com/anthonysmdoyle
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Barolt wrote: View PostIt's not just about the scoring though. One of the biggest improvements both guys, Ross and DeMar, made this season was being effective defensively and as teammates even when they aren't scoring.
That other stuff has gone right out the window in the two playoff games so far. Creating for teammates? Not enough of that from DeMar.(8.4 potential assists/game during the season, 6.5 potential assists/game during the playoffs) Defense? He's been awful.
We need the other stuff just as much as we need his scoring.
Regardless, we need Demar to be better. I think we all agree on that.
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Joey wrote: View PostI agree with you, but PER and WS don't just take into account Scoring .. do they?
Regardless, we need Demar to be better. I think we all agree on that.twitter.com/anthonysmdoyle
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Barolt wrote: View PostThis kinda stuff scares me.
My own hope is that he stops handling the ball in traffic. This is not his forte (old deficiency) and more so because he is being keyed on. The coaches should help with this and run plays for him inside at least to begin with and get the confidence going from his traditional sweet spots.
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Barolt wrote: View PostPER really rewards high usage scoring. Doesn't have any defensive component. Win Shares is the unadjusted stat, adjusted for minutes, with WS/48 DeMar's .169 is nice, but JV and Lowry were way ahead of him.
I was comparing him to his replacements (Ross and lesser degree Powell).. neither of which would be able to sustain his level of production, while being given his level of Usage. And yes, his usage could/should be lower, but thats how Casey runs the team, and thats the card we're dealt.
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