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KeonClark wrote: View PostIts August. Every armchair GM thinks they "got better"
I'll take that bet Rocwell. OU 6.5 wins, name your stakes@Chr1st1anL
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostHow am I criticizing JV? I said his play here will have no effect on his play in the NBA. JV just had a tough couple weeks of basketball. Just cause I don't believe in this "burn out" theory doesn't mean I'm hating on him. JV is allowed to struggle it's part of the game. You guys don't need to make an excuse for every single situation.
Also a torn groin is way worse than anything JV went through during this long gruelling season where he only played 72 games in total and Bogut played 92.
Now do I think it will negatively effect him, not at all.
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Oran wrote: View PostMy hope is that it does have an effect on his play. That it actually does make him take the game more seriously. Not that he isn't already, but I doubt it would hurt if he did even more.
Now do I think it will negatively effect him, not at all.@Chr1st1anL
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In the same vein as the pics posted for Sully and DeMar, JV made two lists, with a special appearance by Bismack AND Sully in one of them:
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DanH wrote: View PostIn the same vein as the pics posted for Sully and DeMar, JV made two lists, with a special appearance by Bismack AND Sully in one of them:
I relish negativity and disappointment. It is not healthy. Somebody buy me a pony.
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Where are you guys finding these stats? The one Chr1st1anL posted about Demar was kind of pointless to me just because Demar isn't an efficient offensive player so who cares how many points he scores.I relish negativity and disappointment. It is not healthy. Somebody buy me a pony.
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GLF wrote: View PostWhere are you guys finding these stats? The one Chr1st1anL posted about Demar was kind of pointless to me just because Demar isn't an efficient offensive player so who cares how many points he scores.
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GLF wrote: View PostWhere are you guys finding these stats? The one Chr1st1anL posted about Demar was kind of pointless to me just because Demar isn't an efficient offensive player so who cares how many points he scores.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexKenne...80806965399552
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Sinbad wrote: View PostHe isn't efficient by any metric, though he is effective given the rudimentary offense we run and the sheer volume of possessions he is allowed to use. If such a stat exists, I would like to see ORTG stats that don't take freethrows into account.
He's pretty efficient by TS% especially considering his usage.
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GLF wrote: View PostDamn JV is that high for offensive rating? That's crazy. Also I would have thought JV and Sullinger would have both been higher than Biz on rebounds per 48 mins because they are both very good rebounders. But thinking back Biz was an amazing rebounder as well so I guess it makes sense.
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DanH wrote: View PostThat's basically eFG%. Why would you not want to include free throws?
He's pretty efficient by TS% especially considering his usage.
Edit: I looked up eFG% on basketball-reference. It doesn't include FTs, and it weighs 3's heavier than 2's since they're worth more.
eFG% over the last 3 seasons:
Lowry: .511, .476, .516 [Has shot an eFG% above .500 3 times-- twice as a Raptor]
JV: .531, .572, .565 [And he has yet to record a sub .531 eFG% for his career]
DeRozan: .452, .426, .463 [Has only shot an eFG% above .486 once-- his rookie season]
You're right. TS% definitely is kinder to DeRozan as it puts more emphasis on freethrows. Otherwise...yikes. And its crazy that if not for Lowry's body falling apart two years ago he would have three straight years of +.500 eFG%. For a starting scoring PG, that's really good.Last edited by Sinbad; Sun Aug 28, 2016, 02:35 PM.
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Sinbad wrote: View PostI wouldn't want to include free throws because what constitutes a foul can vary from game to game depending on the opposition and the officiating crew, and completely changes once the playoffs roll around. Nothing against DeMar, but FTs are a huge part of his game and noticeably beefs up his TS%. I had forgotten about eFG%, but I once heard Detroit Isiah Thomas say that eFG% is a better indicator of shot selection. I tend to agree with that.
Edit: I looked up eFG% on basketball-reference. It doesn't include FTs, and it weighs 3's heavier than 2's since they're worth more.
eFG% over the last 3 seasons:
Lowry: .511, .476, .516 [Has shot an eFG% above .500 3 times-- twice as a Raptor]
JV: .531, .572, .565 [And he has yet to record a sub .531 eFG% for his career]
DeRozan: .452, .426, .463 [Has only shot an eFG% above .486 once-- his rookie season]
You're right. TS% definitely is kinder to DeRozan as it puts more emphasis on freethrows. Otherwise...yikes. And its crazy that if not for Lowry's body falling apart two years ago he would have three straight years of +.500 eFG%. For a starting scoring PG, that's really good.
That being said this is the first year you can look at Derozan's ts percentage and say he was pretty efficient. Let's hope he can keep it up.
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