JV picks up no fouls in the 2nd half yet is taken out of the game after 2 minutes.
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Yeah, I get teh distinct impression that the coach is not a big JV fan. In fact, regardless of that, I think the coach is a complete moron. The team's D is just horrid. So porous....I know the team is generally a bit weaker than years past, but man, I've never seen the Lithuania team play so sloppy.
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Fanchie wrote: View PostOn a related note, Batum is owning this game. Can't believe people still see him as "just" a role player.
I don't know what Batum's ceiling is, but I know you can't really judge his game to be that much better by a good Olympic showing. Also, again, I can't stress how bad Lithuania's D is. Especially in the 2nd half, France has gotten pretty much anything they want. Batum hasn't been dominating by making tough plays and carrying his team, he's just being given plays that are way too easy for him from the other team....
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To all the bitching guys about JV: have you even watched his play today??? His defense was so terrible as if Lithuania played without a center, just with 4 against 5 players. Jonas doesn't really look like himself anymore. It might be the incredibly tense schedule, but he's only a shadow of what we've seen from him in Lietuvos Rytas during the season. At the moment Kavaliauskas is a much much more reliable option on defense (of course JV can still play some offense, it would seem, but we have plenty of guys for that - what JV has to do is to defend).Last edited by omgsomuchpotential; Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:51 AM.
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He wasn't bad defensively, kavaliauskas wasn't better, songaila can play one on one D but is a non factor on team defense because he's too short, slow. And when your team scores 9pts in the third quarter you want the best offensive center to be on the floor, so he could post up and create offence for the team. Kleiza was guarded by diaw and didnt go 1on1 at all. Coach sucks, defense sucks, something has to change for the lithuanian team...
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Confidence can be a fragile thing - especially when 20 years old playing against grown men with the pressure of a basketball-crazed nation and what appears to be little to no support from the coach in terms of guidance and minutes.....
..... perspective of a biased Raps fan
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dunno guys - don't wanna gloat over here - but i told you that JV will not get more than 10-15 mins in this LT team - not this year - and you all laughed at me. i saw it last year in NT - i saw how he played in LR this year - he is not ready to play 30 mins for NT and kemzura haven't showed any signs of letting JV play more no matter how bad or good he plays. Kemzura is not here to experiment - he will get hanged back in LT if he doesn't get some sort of a result.
what's happening this year in Olympics regarding JV - is exactly what i expected to happen. you guys had way too high hopes for him regarding NT. but no matter - NBA will be different story - cause your guys will work with him individually and in time JV will be decent C - maybe even a great one. just don't expect him to put up 10 point + 5 rb every game the first year.
BTW JV defense was horrible in those 2 mins at third Q - that's why coach put him on the bench. Kavaliauskas is just better right now for LT teamLast edited by Skaloon; Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:05 AM.
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostI don't see what the big deal is. Anthony Davis gets no minutes at all pretty much. He was the #1 overall pick.
Davis, on the other hand, is arguably one of the worst players on his team.
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostI don't see what the big deal is. Anthony Davis gets no minutes at all pretty much. He was the #1 overall pick.
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Nilanka wrote: View PostValanciunas is considered one of the best players on his team. Getting limited minutes is peculiar.
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Skaloon wrote: View Postdunno guys - don't wanna gloat over here - but i told you that JV will not get more than 10-15 mins in this LT team - not this year - and you all laughed at me. i saw it last year in NT - i saw how he played in LR this year - he is not ready to play 30 mins for NT and kemzura haven't showed any signs of letting JV play more no matter how bad or good he plays. Kemzura is not here to experiment - he will get hanged back in LT if he doesn't get some sort of a result.
what's happening this year in Olympics regarding JV - is exactly what i expected to happen. you guys had way too high hopes for him regarding NT. but no matter - NBA will be different story - cause your guys will work with him individually and in time JV will be decent C - maybe even a great one. just don't expect him to put up 10 point + 5 rb every game the first year.
BTW JV defense was horrible in those 2 mins at third Q - that's why coach put him on the bench. Kavaliauskas is just better right now for LT team
he will probably get to play up to 10 minutes - not more - he is just not good enough yet. the only reason why JV had some highlights in last year European Championship - is that Sarunas Jasikevicius is an amazing point guard that can make any center look good. BTW some of us don't even think that JV deserves a place in national team this year - there are better and more expierenced players right now. the only reason why he will be in the team - it's the "potential" - too bad that "potential" doesn't win championships.
PS - Hate to be picky, but you did gloat - JV is averaging 11 minutes so far. Either way, you have been pretty spot on in your predictions and I am assuming you were making these predictions before the main C for Lithuania went down with an injury.“Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are.”
― John Wooden
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The Coach wrote: View PostPS - Hate to be picky, but you did gloat - JV is averaging 11 minutes so far. Either way, you have been pretty spot on in your predictions and I am assuming you were making these predictions before the main C for Lithuania went down with an injury.
The Coach wrote: View PostHow did you think he played in the qualifying tournament? I thought he came up big in one of the big games for them (forget the stats).Last edited by Skaloon; Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:58 AM.
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