RR NBA Points League aka. FPL (Fantasy Points League)

[Miekenstien]

Did anyone get a team full of small guys and how did they do? My team is pretty big and I put up 22 points last night.

[Apollo]

Well five of my ten are G, three are GF and two are bigs. I only had two guys play last night. They both played ok.

[Miekenstien]

harden and d'angelo are available. i want bigs. pf, or centers. harden will be very expensive.

[Miekenstien]

steals and blocks seem to be very important because of their large multiplier. whiteside, gorbert, gasol, and vucevic all had huge games last night, but whiteside is way out front because of his blocks, steals. 5 turnovers for vucevic really brought his score down. first reaction is one more stat line that brings the score down could create separation in player value. maybe fg% or free throws can get added in, this is a first reaction.

[planetmars]

Whiteside with 6.7 points tonight. 24 14 2 2 3 and 1.

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Steals/Blocks seem to be pretty big in this league. Damon had a huge night last night.. 39/5/6 but 0's on steals/blocks.. so had *only* 5.8 points.

Interesting...

[Apollo]

If you take a look at the whole league the points are fairly spread out among all positions:

https://basketball.fantasysports.yah...17&jsenabled=1

Players who produce well rounded stat lines are definitely rewarded for it. I don't think bigs are weighted higher than guards though. Guards are more likely to get steals and assists. Bigs are more likely to get blocks and rebounds. It's the guards who hit the glass and the bigs who know how to pass or pickpocket who really seem to rise high.

There are seven centers in the top 20. The lack of FT% helps some of those guys immensely. On the flip side, the lack of FG% is helping some of the wings and guards immensely.

Steals/Blocks seem to be pretty big in this league. Damon had a huge night last night.. 39/5/6 but 0's on steals/blocks.. so had *only* 5.8 points.

Interesting...

We can adjust the weights in the off-season if we feel there isn't a balance.

The average NBA stat line is in line one, followed by points translation in line two:

PTS/REB/AST/STL/BLK/TO
11.8/4.8/2.6/0.9/0.5/1.6
1.4/0.7/0.4/0.3/0.2/0.2 =2.8 points

Everything rounded to one decimal. This all comes down to what we want this league to be about.

[planetmars]

We can adjust the weights in the off-season if we feel there isn't a balance.

The average NBA stat line is in line one, followed by points translation in line two:

PTS/REB/AST/STL/BLK/TO
11.8/4.8/2.6/0.9/0.5/1.6
1.4/0.7/0.4/0.3/0.2/0.2 =2.8 points

Everything rounded to one decimal.

It's only been one night.. would like to see more games played to see if any tweaking is needed. And with only 6 cats, it makes sense that steals/blocks should have more weight. Plus they are way harder to get compared to points, assists or rebounds.

[Apollo]

And with only 6 cats, it makes sense that steals/blocks should have more weight. Plus they are way harder to get compared to points, assists or rebounds.

This is exactly what I was thinking. A steal leads to a bucket in many cases. A block shuts the door on possibly an easy bucket. The complete players, typically the best players, are hitting these categories. I don't want the league to be weighted towards bigs though if that turns out to be the case as per Miek.

[Miekenstien]

It's only been one night.. would like to see more games played to see if any tweaking is needed. And with only 6 cats, it makes sense that steals/blocks should have more weight. Plus they are way harder to get compared to points, assists or rebounds.

this is why i am trying to make a team of all pfs and centers. i want a test level, was hoping someone had a team of all guards, and then a couple teams of mixes. makes it fair to compare, and helps everyone in the league understand value.

last night i had 5 guys playing and i put up 97 61 11 6 8 10 for 25.36 points
koncept had 6 players put up 128 35 26 6 2 14 for 25.4 points

[planetmars]

Is it easier for a big to get a steal than a guard to get a block? I guess it might come down to that when fielding a team. From my eye test I would think bigs would tend to have an easier time getting steals. Where as guards don't usually get many blocks.

Looking at block leaders for the year.. Danny Green is the first guard in the list and he's 26th in the list... Simmons is next at 37th. You could argue that both are basically forwards anyway. Looking at steal leaders you have Young at 11th and Drummond/Cousins both tied for 12th.

Actually Drummond and Cousins would both be killing it in this league since they are in the top 15 in both cats.

[Miekenstien]

Trade between 007, and me. Harden and russell for Kat and Turner. Tons of draft picks involved too.

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[Apollo]

Lol

[Apollo]

And now by popular demand I will take a dump on this thread. A data dump that is. Here's the top 100 as of last week broken down by general position. It's not perfect but good enough:

"GUARDS"
1 Russell Westbrook (OKC - PG) 6.2
2 James Harden (HOU - PG,SG) 6.1
7 Victor Oladipo (IND - PG,SG) DTD 5.1
8 Stephen Curry (GSW - PG,SG) 5.1
12 John Wall (WAS - PG) OUT 5.0
13 Chris Paul (HOU - PG) 4.9
14 Damian Lillard (POR - PG) 4.9
15 Jimmy Butler (MIN - SG,SF) OUT 4.8
17 Ben Simmons (PHI - PG,SF,PF) 4.8
19 Kyrie Irving (BOS - PG,SG) OUT 4.5
20 DeMar DeRozan (TOR - SG,SF) 4.5
23 Kemba Walker (CHA - PG) 4.4
26 Bradley Beal (WAS - SG) 4.3
28 Lou Williams (LAC - PG,SG) 4.2
29 Kris Dunn (CHI - PG,SG) 4.2
31 Devin Booker (PHO - SG) 4.2
32 Kyle Lowry (TOR - PG) 4.2
33 Donovan Mitchell (UTH - PG,SG) DTD 4.1
35 Jrue Holiday (NOR - PG,SG) 4.1
38 Eric Bledsoe (MIL - PG,SG) 4.0
41 Dennis Schroder (ATL - PG) 3.9
43 CJ McCollum (POR - PG,SG) 3.9
48 Tyreke Evans (MEM - PG,SG,SF) OUT 3.8
49 Lonzo Ball (LAL - PG) 3.7
52 Jeff Teague (MIN - PG) 3.6
54 D'Angelo Russell (BKN - PG,SG) 3.6
55 Klay Thompson (GSW - SG,SF) 3.5
56 Goran Dragic (MIA - PG,SG) 3.5
61 Spencer Dinwiddie (BKN - PG) 3.4
67 Ricky Rubio (UTH - PG) 3.3
69 Gary Harris (DEN - SG,SF) 3.3
74 Tim Hardaway Jr. (NYK - SG,SF) 3.2
80 Zach LaVine (CHI - PG,SG) 3.1
81 Evan Fournier (ORL - SG,SF) 3.1
83 Dennis Smith Jr. (DAL - PG,SG) 3.1
85 Darren Collison (IND - PG,SG) OUT 3.1
86 Reggie Jackson (DET - PG,SG) OUT 3.1
87 Elfrid Payton (PHO - PG) 3.1
89 Jamal Murray (DEN - PG,SG) 3.0
92 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (LAL - SG,SF) 3.0
94 Isaiah Thomas (LAL - PG) 3.0
96 Rajon Rondo (NOR - PG) 3.0
97 Josh Richardson (MIA - PG,SG,SF) 2.9
98 Eric Gordon (HOU - SG) OUT 2.9


"FORWARDS"
3 LeBron James (CLE - SF,PF) 6.1
4 Anthony Davis (NOR - PF,C) 6.0
5 Giannis Antetokounmpo (MIL - SF,PF) DTD 6.0
6 Kevin Durant (GSW - SF,PF) 5.5
22 Paul George (OKC - SG,SF,PF) 4.4
25 LaMarcus Aldridge (SAS - PF,C) DTD 4.3
34 Aaron Gordon (ORL - SF,PF) OUT 4.1
39 Paul Millsap (DEN - PF,C) OUT 3.9
40 Khris Middleton (MIL - SG,SF) 3.9
42 Kevin Love (CLE - PF,C) OUT 3.9
46 Myles Turner (IND - PF,C) DTD 3.8
47 Rondae Hollis-Jefferson (BKN - SF,PF) OUT 3.8
51 Lauri Markkanen (CHI - PF) 3.6
53 Will Barton (DEN - SG,SF) 3.6
57 Otto Porter Jr. (WAS - SF,PF) 3.5
58 TJ Warren (PHO - SF) DTD 3.5
60 Harrison Barnes (DAL - SF,PF) DTD 3.4
62 Andrew Wiggins (MIN - SG,SF) 3.4
63 Nikola Mirotic (NOR - SF,PF) 3.3
65 Tobias Harris (LAC - SF,PF) 3.3
66 Julius Randle (LAL - PF,C) 3.3
70 Carmelo Anthony (OKC - SF,PF) 3.3
71 Danilo Gallinari (LAC - SF,PF) OUT 3.3
72 Nicolas Batum (CHA - SG,SF) 3.2
73 Brandon Ingram (LAL - SG,SF,PF) DTD 3.2
75 Dario Saric (PHI - SF,PF,C) 3.2
76 Kent Bazemore (ATL - SG,SF) 3.2
77 Derrick Favors (UTH - PF,C) 3.2
78 Thaddeus Young (IND - SF,PF) 3.1
82 Robert Covington (PHI - SF,PF) 3.1
88 Serge Ibaka (TOR - PF,C) 3.0
90 Taj Gibson (MIN - PF,C) DTD 3.0
91 Jayson Tatum (BOS - SF,PF) 3.0
99 DeMarre Carroll (BKN - SF,PF) 2.9


"CENTERS"
4 Anthony Davis (NOR - PF,C) 6.0
9 Andre Drummond (DET - PF,C) 5.1
10 Karl-Anthony Towns (MIN - C) 5.1
11 Joel Embiid (PHI - PF,C) 5.0
16 Nikola Jokic (DEN - PF,C) 4.8
18 Blake Griffin (DET - PF,C) 4.6
21 Hassan Whiteside (MIA - C,PF) DTD 4.4
24 Marc Gasol (MEM - C) 4.3
27 Nikola Vucevic (ORL - PF,C) 4.2
30 Dwight Howard (CHA - PF,C) 4.2
36 DeAndre Jordan (LAC - C) 4.0
37 Rudy Gobert (UTH - C) 4.0
44 Clint Capela (HOU - PF,C) 3.9
45 Al Horford (BOS - PF,C) 3.8
50 Jusuf Nurkic (POR - C) 3.7
59 Steven Adams (OKC - C) 3.4
64 Domantas Sabonis (IND - PF,C) 3.3
68 Enes Kanter (NYK - C) 3.3
79 Willie Cauley-Stein (SAC - PF,C) 3.1
84 Zach Randolph (SAC - PF,C) 3.1
93 Jonas Valanciunas (TOR - C) 3.0
95 Brook Lopez (LAL - C) 3.0
100 Dirk Nowitzki (DAL - PF,C) 2.9

[Apollo]

14 guards in the top 30.
6 forwards in the top 30.
10 centers in the top 30.

Position is more fluid in the NBA though and I think the above generally proved that the distribution of top contributors is fairly balanced across the board. Note this data is on the season to date and not Monday night.

[Apollo]

The average NBA stat line is in line one, followed by points translation in line two:

PTS/REB/AST/STL/BLK/TO
11.8/4.8/2.6/0.9/0.5/1.6
1.4/0.7/0.4/0.3/0.2/0.2 =2.8 points

If we want the percentage of each cat in the 2.8 it looks like this:
PTS/REB/AST/STL/BLK/TO
49%/24%/16%/11%/7%/-7%